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Hey guys, so today, I've encountered many heartless users around this forums asking for vouch copies from builders, artists, setups specialists, and so on.
Another statement that I'll be giving is that why shouldn't there be a requirement for a vouch copy? Such as having a decent review and making your honest opinion about the product you have received from the user who did your product?

Here is the requirements that should be for vouch copies:
- A user that has spent a lot of time over MC-Market and has never have scammed or tried to scam
- A user that is months old in MC-Market
- A user with more than 250+ ratings (Not calling them reputation, but you get my point why)
- A user that would provide a decent review about the product and how it went well, and such as the communication between the buyer and the seller
- A user that doesn't shit-post (Suggested by doge123)

Anyways, as for the reviews, shouldn't people be honest about there product and not simply just be giving a bullshit review just like "Vouch, good guy" or somehow a normal "Vouch" or "Transaction went smooth, so VOUCH!". So what I'm saying is that people should get warned for not giving a decent review from the seller for the final outcome of there product

Please give me your comments and what you think about this
 
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I do hate seeing that.
But I'd like to offer another perspective on a few things you've said.

There are already rules in place, such as "No asking for vouch copies until vouch copies are explicitly offered".
The problems you state, in my eyes, are just as much the fault of the people handing out vouches.

If the staff want to start warning people's useless "vouch this user!" posts for being low quality, that's fine with me...
But I don't think the contents of a vouch should be regulated by staff.

The people giving out the vouch copies are perfectly capable of specifying the details they'd like their voucher to give.
Obviously, if someone gives you a detailed vouch, people will be swayed more in your favor than a simple "vouch".

As for the honesty, I completely agree...
I'd like to see people start giving out "review copies" instead of "vouch copies", but again... I don't want this site to become nazi heaven... That should still be left up to whoever's handing them out, and at their own risk/reward.
 
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I HATE when people do that....

I'm 50/50 on this...

There are already rules in place, such as "No asking for vouch copies until vouch copies are explicitly offered".
The problems you state, in my eyes, are just as much the fault of the people handing out vouches.

If the staff want to start warning people's useless "vouch this user!" posts for being low quality, that's fine with me...
But I don't think the contents of a vouch should be regulated by staff.

The people giving out the vouch copies are perfectly capable of specifying the details they'd like their voucher to give.
Obviously, if someone gives you a detailed vouch, people will be swayed more in your favor than a simple "vouch".

As for the honesty, I completely agree...
I'd like to see people start giving out "review copies" instead of "vouch copies", but again... I don't want this site to become nazi heaven... That should still be left up to whoever's handing them out, and at their own risk/reward.
I guess you could say that, but it's really up to whoever is handing them out as you stated, but again, it might be up to us and/or the staff
 
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Well, I have a different view on "vouch copies" all together. In the real world and in real business, there are none.

I started off with no vouch copies and I have done fine and great with my business and don't really see a need for them unless a seller literally has zero work done (which is on them and they can create something if they need to).

However, many people are different than me of course. If someone wants to give vouch copies then yes, there really should be a set of requirements like the ones you have pointed out. But these requirements really depend on whatever the seller wants them to be. So there isn't really a great way to enforce it because people can do what they want.

But users shouldn't go around on every post saying "Vouch copy man?" just to attempt to get free goods/services. That's the main issue that I see around the forum and community. So, it's really on the seller to enforce these requirements.

Sorry for the super long post, but also touching on the last subject.
Yes, whoever is given a vouch copy should be obligated to give a full and detailed review about everything. But again, this is on the buyer and seller.
 

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Hey guys, so today, I've encountered many heartless users around this forums asking for vouch copies from builders, artists, setups specialists, and so on.
Another statement that I'll be giving is that why shouldn't there be a requirement for a vouch copy? Such as having a decent review and making your honest opinion about the product you have received from the user who did your product?

Here is the requirements that should be for vouch copies:
- A user that has spent a lot of time over MC-Market and has never have scammed or tried to scam
- A user that is months old in MC-Market
- A user with more than 250+ ratings (Not calling them reputation, but you get my point why)
- A user that would provide a decent review about the product and how it went well, and such as the communication between the buyer and the seller

Anyways, as for the reviews, shouldn't people be honest about there product and not simply just be giving a bullshit review just like "Vouch, good guy" or somehow a normal "Vouch" or "Transaction went smooth, so VOUCH!". So what I'm saying is that people should get warned for not giving a decent review from the seller for the final outcome of there product

Please give me your comments and what you think about this
Make it like 500+
 

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In my opinion, it should be at least a 250+ combination of "Like, Agree, or Winner" ratings so that it has some relevance. There are too many skids with funny ratings getting vouch copies. I don't even like to use vouch copies I receive as I think it's strictly for review only.
 

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I do think 250 rep is a little much though... Not many people on here have that much, people might have trouble giving away their vcs
Not really, The point of "Vouch copies" are for people who are: Active, Do deals, Ect. 250 Is the bare minimum of it, people could say " only 500+ rating " ect.
 

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Add:

- A user that does not shitpost.

There seems to be a problem when shitposters with very low post:rating ratios are mistaken for trusted members.

But I completely agree.
 

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Couch copy?
I don't like you... and your stupid name.... and your so called "Couch copy?" Take this seriously because right now, you are shit posting which adds you to the lists of retards..
 
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I don't agree with this. I think that the business should decide how vouch copies are handled and MC-Market makes sure those requirements are fulfilled.
 
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