Ban Service Team Spam

[ImZavl]

Service teams only need ONE thread, they don't need to make 5000 threads including the exact same content in each thread.

This has been going on for a while and I've seen many suggestions saying it but no one bothers listen to it.

I'm not saying to ban them, just don't allow them to create 500 posts for the same service.

 

[Sloth]

Forcing service teams to group their various services onto a single thread would be such an easy way to resolve this spam. I can’t comprehend how a staff member can look at an image like the one above and not see an inherent problem.

 

[ImZavl]

Would just love to add this.

[DOUBLEPOST=1600555800][/DOUBLEPOST]Capaldi Provided a screenshot of the same team mass posting ^

 

[root]

just have a service team category, nobody wants to deal with 20 threads

 

[Lone____Wolf]

Honestly not sure how something like this hasn't been implemented yet, been a problem since I joined and always denied. Staff seem to lack common sense most of the time sadly.

 

[Landon]

The problem with this suggestion is you are defining spam incorrectly.

Spam (verb): send the same message indiscriminately to (large numbers of recipients) on the Internet.

The thing is, service teams are not “spam”. It is not the same message over and over. Each thread service teams post are curated to the section they are being posted in. A thread in graphic design showcases their graphic design services, whereas a thread in development shows their development services. These threads are not the same, and therefor, not “spam” as you are insisting.

Now, if service teams are posting the exact same thread (either contents or thread design with no modification to the specific section they are posting in), then it already falls under the rules regarding spam, and will be removed if reported.

Now, I assume you aren’t trying to argue that they are “spam”, you just seemed to misuse that word. I think the point you are trying to make is that service teams should not be allowed to post a thread regarding their services in every single section.

My rebuttal to this is that limiting users to what services they can advertise is inherently wrong. I saw a reply stating a “Service Team” section would solve this problem- wrong. When you are looking for development services, you go to the development section. You then find a thread that looks enticing, and click it. People don’t think “Oh yeah, I want only a service team to do this project.” That’s the lovely thing of advertising. Limiting the number of threads someone can post limits their business. And in a market forum, limiting business is never the goal.

I get it can be frustrating to see that many threads, but you have to realize each thread is unique to the section it is being posted in. Development differs from graphic design which differs from building which differs from server setups. I don’t think we should enforce a limit on the number of threads unless it is specifically the same thread contents being posted across different sections— at that point it becomes spam (and it already breaks the rules).

 

[Precise]

Please note, the replies above have been pasted on many threads regarding banning anything related to service teams, there is almost a 0% chance that these suggestions will get accepted. Stop trying.

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• Before suggesting something, make sure it hasn't been suggested before. If a similar idea has been suggested before, it most likely will end up with the same result as the previous suggestion.

 

[Landon]

Okay while it may or may not be against the rules it doesn't mean people cannot voice their opinion or view on a matter.

In my opinion, if I was not as invested in MC-Market and came on here and saw dozens of service teams and their contact is on Discord, I'd likely just join the Discords and not come back on MC-Market since Discord is efficient and it would be a plus if I didn't have to come back on MC-Market to find what I am looking for since I already have it at my disposal on Discord.

MC-Market is a place where people can offer their services and products, yes, but people are essentially going to move away from MC-Market at some point and move to the service teams discord servers since people like to use Discord anyhow since it's more efficient and there you have servers where you can just post what you want.

If Management keeps letting dozens of service team post in 20+ threads and being able to up 20+ threads at the same time, it could only lead to people leaving MC-Market for one of two reasons:

• They see Discord servers and can see they can get what they want on Discord, a platform majority find the most efficient to deal/transact
• Freelancers want to move away from MC-Market since service teams are essentially getting the clients. Why stay on a site if they are not able to get clients because of this?

Sure, you see people buying ads but how many of those people are just people who have been here for years and have invested themselves into this community?
How many are new members who come on MC-Market and stay and decide to buy ads?

From what I see, I literally only see the same group of people on MC-Market. Not many are new members lol. Now I don't know if the service team is the issue, but hey, perhaps it's something the management should look into why the only people you see active (coming on and talking/posting) are the ones who have been here for years?

I don’t think trying to argue that service teams are the reason new users don’t come back (or get actively involved) is fair. The site has always been like that, you can find tons of users who sign up and haven’t been seen since they’ve signed up before service teams were even thought of. Equivocating that to service teams just seems misconstrued.

People join a market forum for one of two reasons. Buy a product or service. Sell a product or service. People don’t join a market forum to be a part of the community- that just slowly happens as you continue to offer your services (or buy for some people), and you slowly start to network. People who join the site just to buy or sell one or two times will never be a reccuring user, regardless if service teams existed or not.

(and from past experience of owning one of the largest service teams on MC-Market: Discord does not take users from MC-Market. Clients in our Discord still actively used MC-Market, and so did freelancers. I mean, for the most part, clients would purchase and then leave the Discord. It was mainly repeat customers that stayed in the Discords, most do not stay, especially because service teams are so limited on quality and variety.)

 

[Mick]

Landon has summed up my perspective on this topic pretty well I think. The reason these service teams post and bump so many threads is that they offer so many different services. I see the massive amount of hate that these teams get as entirely unfounded and unreasonable.

We will, however, be implementing a new filter for all of our marketplace forums for users who hate service teams and never want to deal with them. After our migration to XF2 you'll be able to choose whether to filter threads by Freelancer or Team which should solve everyone's problems and make things better.

Service teams aren't going, and neither is their "spam".

Denied, thanks for the suggestion