Legacy Reputation Policy Updates

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G’day everyone,

Recently, we released an announcement in which we expressed our plans to remove feedback authored prior to the new format, in which we enforce a character minimum, specific information, and evidence be uploaded for each accusation or claim. We believe that this is a bullet that needs to be bitten eventually, in order for our community to move on from the period where our reputation system was undeveloped, and widely abused. However, after hearing the complaints from a community who still, nonetheless, values the feedback authored during that period, we’ve cancelled those plans.

As a staff team, we’ve discussed our options and agreed upon a compromise which should best serve and protect the community’s interests. Before proceeding with these plans, we’re sharing it with everyone in the community for additional consideration.
  1. We will not be deleting legacy feedback, it will display publicly but be greyed out. (Suggested by Sparko here)
  2. We will no longer be accepting reports on legacy feedback. We are aware that they violate our rules, however, they are being provided with an exception.
  3. We will be providing everyone with the option to toggle whether or not they see reputation totals inclusive of legacy feedback. It will default to not include legacy feedback and your toggle settings will be saved across sessions.
  4. We will be removing the display of reputation totals from all areas of our site except the reputation tab and overview page, where the toggle option will be located and where they’ll be encouraged to read the contents of the feedback.
  5. We will be adding a notice to the feedback page for all legacy feedback, warning users that no evidence has been provided to support the accusations/claims being made, and informing them of the abuse that occurred due to the limitations with our reputation system during the time when it was authored.
  6. We will be sending out messages on behalf of our community to everyone who is currently an author of legacy feedback on one of our users, with a list of the feedback that they need to update. (Suggested by Sparko here)
  7. We will be implementing a feature which will allow our users to upload evidence to feedback that they’ve received, including legacy feedback. When evidence is submitted by the receiver of legacy feedback, it will be placed under moderation. Once a staff member approves of the evidence provided, it will be counted and highlighted normally again. (Suggested by Zyger here)
  8. We will be extending the previously provided two weeks before our changes to legacy feedback are implemented, to January 1st. (Suggested by Kiri here)
With these changes, we aim to address everyone’s valid concerns about their activities within the community over the past years not being properly represented, encourage that past feedback for legitimate interactions get updated, as well as protect our site’s newer and future community members from being forced to use a system that will always provide a strong positive bias to users who were around when feedback points were so much easier to obtain, especially through unrestricted farming of dishonest reviews for made up interactions.

Please utilize this suggestion thread to offer up any feedback you have on these changes before they take place. We want to ensure that our next announcement takes everyone’s ideas into consideration for the best possible end results.
 
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I lost 1 rep and I couldn't care less - you don't see me making 20 threads and starting flame wars to see who lost the most rep
LOL of course you're not 'making 20 threads' because you ONLY LOST 1 REP

Those of us losing 50-200 rep are 'butthurt,' something you would not understand from losing 1

lmao
 

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I stay neutral with this decision

There are many ups and downs as well as good arguments coming from both sides. Unfortunately for some, this decision is probably final, unless someone can come up with an entirely new system that is more beneficial than this.

I talked to Justis about having 2 types of reputation, a rep system that a competitor yall know currently has. Justis brushed off my statement about this suggestion but I was wondering if others would agree with me here.
Should we have 2 types of rep? One for credibility/first impressions and another for deals only?
 

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I stay neutral with this decision

There are many ups and downs as well as good arguments coming from both sides. Unfortunately for some, this decision is probably final, unless someone can come up with an entirely new system that is more beneficial than this.

I talked to Justis about having 2 types of reputation, a rep system that a competitor yall know currently has. Justis brushed off my statement about this suggestion but I was wondering if others would agree with me here.
Should we have 2 types of rep? One for credibility/first impressions and another for deals only?
One solution would be to separate reputation (opinion-based) from vouches (successful trades completed). This way, a person could have low reputation, even negative reputation (because no one likes them) but still be a credible trader (lots of vouches).

Vouches would require staff-approved evidence, and reputation would mostly be unmoderated outside of direct harassment and doxing.
 

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I'll move this to denied now as the thread has served its purpose.

Thank you to everyone for your excellent feedback. We hear you loud and clear.
 
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