A general publication on professionalism

[Ghast]

Hello,

I’ve recently been receiving a lot of hate regarding the way I act, using the same professional format:

Hello [user]
[message]
Kindest regards,
Ghast

With my recent internship at Nintendo, I’ve adapted myself to this style. How would you on a personal experience write on such forum? Is it a necessity to remain professional?

I’d like to point out something else: those who are obviously stating I’ve applied for staff, it is in fact true but I never would do such change for such position. It in fact demands effort from my end to show great appreciation, but pushing too hard pictures immaturity. It is not one of the factors of such change.

What do you think is the sweet spot?



Kindest regards,
Ghast.

 

[Ghast]

I would recommend not being too serious.
I use worlds such as Regards, Thanks only when talking to staff members.
Otherwise I start my PMs off with a pretty casual yoyoyo or something along the lines

Alright! I’ll take this into consideration.

 

[Spenser]

I see nothing wrong with what you posted ...

 

[Kavish]

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with that format, especially when trying to retain to a high level of professionalism. Maybe you could lay it off from every post, but another wise I see no issue. Haters gonna hate.

 

[Ellie]

Nothing wrong with how you format your messages, the only problem that would arise is that this is a forum so you don't need to use such formalities in responses, usually you would reserve it for emails but even then I don't reply every time with the same layout, after the first few formal introductions people usually drop it and talk more casually.

But I honestly do believe being polite and respectful in business is a must, even on a forum site like this. I find it crazy sometimes that people conduct business here whilst also mouthing off at eachother within their own and other peoples threads... but it's on them to act like that, if they want to then it only makes them look bad at the very least.

 

[Ghast]

I see nothing wrong with what you posted ...

Honestly, I see nothing wrong with that format, especially when trying to retain to a high level of professionalism. Maybe you could lay it off from every post, but another wise I see no issue. Haters gonna hate.

I appreciate the positive comments, but I since some close friends of mine recently dmed me about this, I truly want to have this figured out.

 

[Louwtjie]

Hello,

I’ve recently been receiving a lot of hate regarding the way I act, using the same professional format:


With my recent internship at Nintendo, I’ve adapted myself to this style. How would you on a personal experience write on such forum? Is it a necessity to remain professional?

I’d like to point out something else: those who are obviously stating I’ve applied for staff, it is in fact true but I never would do such change for such position. It in fact demands effort from my end to show great appreciation, but pushing too hard pictures immaturity. It is not one of the factors of such change.

What do you think is the sweet spot?



Kindest regards,
Ghast.

Hello, Ghast.


Eh. Keep in mind the forum is 60% children. I work for a Law firm and email and respond constantly like your format. Seeing it on a forum where I break away and speak to my peers is a bit funny in my view. Don't take it to head. Some of the people here will never have the opportunity to be in a position like us

Kindest regards.

Louwtjie

 

[Cal]

If you must use tricks of language to con your reader into believing your professional, something then there is certainly something wrong in your message. My goal is always to come off as professional without ever seeming as though it takes any effort. I work to make sure that every bit of my message works in conjunction with the other parts, that typically means cutting out unnecessary information like who is this from or "Hello", "Best Regards" and "Thank you" unless to provide a tone that I intend to build on.

I try to avoid any opening or closing remarks if there is no value, or create an unnecessary shift in tone, since often with the nature of most messages on this forum, the tone of the message does not agree with a pleasant greeting and conclusion.

TL;DR, I only open with a greeting a close with a proper conclusion when I feel the tone of the message agrees with those pleasantries.

 

[Ghast]

If you must use tricks of language to con your reader into believing your professional, something then there is certainly something wrong in your message. My goal is always to come off as professional without ever seeming as though it takes any effort. I work to make sure that every bit of my message works in conjunction with the other parts, that typically means cutting out unnecessary information like who is this from or "Hello", "Best Regards" and "Thank you" unless to provide a tone that I intend to build on.

I try to avoid any opening or closing remarks if there is no value, or create an unnecessary shift in tone, since often with the nature of most messages on this forum, the tone of the message does not agree with a pleasant greeting and conclusion.

TL;DR, I only open with a greeting a close with a proper conclusion when I feel the tone of the message agrees with those pleasantries.

Thank you Cal for this in-deep explanation on the topic. I very much appreciate it.

 

[Ally]

If you must use tricks of language to con your reader into believing your professional

Language is what allows professionalism to be conveyed, especially when there is no face-to-face aspect like real life. So no, it's not 'conning'.

I work to make sure that every bit of my message works in conjunction with the other parts, that typically means cutting out unnecessary information like who is this from or "Hello", "Best Regards" and "Thank you" unless to provide a tone that I intend to build on.

That's more minimalist than professional... that is not to say, however, minimalism is unprofessional. You can still be professional using those 'added bits'.

 

[Cal]

Language is what allows professionalism to be conveyed, especially when there is no face-to-face aspect like real life. So no, it's not 'conning'.

I would describe it as conning, it's trying to persuade the reader that someone as professional, though not always deceptive, it does try and present a reality that the contents of the message may not suggest. It acts as a way of "scoring a point" in the professionalism category, without truly earning it.

That's more minimalist than professional... that is not to say, however, minimalism is unprofessional. You can still be professional using those 'added bits'.

That is not to that having extras in unprofessional, but what having "Hello _," and "Best Regards" is is noise. Including those components isn't adding anything to the message, which only means it is either unnecessary or it is taking away value from the message.

I always try to be more brief if I can, it makes it easier to understand the purpose and values of my messages and forces me to write in a concise manner.

 

[Ally]

I would describe it as conning, it's trying to persuade the reader that someone as professional, though not always deceptive, it does try and present a reality that the contents of the message may not suggest. It acts as a way of "scoring a point" in the professionalism category, without truly earning it.

Then you would be calling everyone who is professional a con? What is professionalism if not the way we convey ourselves in our messages and actions?

That is not to that having extras in unprofessional, but what having "Hello _," and "Best Regards" is is noise. Including those components isn't adding anything to the message, which only means it is either unnecessary or it is taking away value from the message.

Not necessarily. It depends heavily on the context (and it has nothing to do with economical prose).

I always try to be more brief if I can, it makes it easier to understand the purpose and values of my messages and forces me to write in a concise manner.

Which is minimal, like I said.

 

[Gunny]

I tend to stay more on the casual side and not to uptight unless it's a hefty commission. I feel as though members of forums, especially this one, like the casual familiarity and feel more at ease. Just my opinion tho

*Edits are because my phone and MCM hate each other*

 

[Landon]

Hello,

I’ve recently been receiving a lot of hate regarding the way I act, using the same professional format:


With my recent internship at Nintendo, I’ve adapted myself to this style. How would you on a personal experience write on such forum? Is it a necessity to remain professional?

I’d like to point out something else: those who are obviously stating I’ve applied for staff, it is in fact true but I never would do such change for such position. It in fact demands effort from my end to show great appreciation, but pushing too hard pictures immaturity. It is not one of the factors of such change.

What do you think is the sweet spot?



Kindest regards,
Ghast.

Professionalism isn't needed on general discussions. If you are talking to a client, yes. In a business deal, yes. But:

"Hey everyone,

My name is Religion. Today I am asking you all if you believe professionalism on this forum is needed? I personally, do believe so. Professionalism shows maturity and experience.

Regards,
Landon"

Is just too much for me. But talking casual to a client is a no-go for me. Only time you need to act professional on this market at all times is if you want to be staff. And with the recent introductions of staff applications, you can easily see who is tryharding to get Staff

 

[Lotus]

There is a time and place for everything.

 

[Landon]

There is a time and place for everything.

Haha very original Mr. Moderator