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Hi,

First of all, this is a thread which states my personal opinion. The outcome of the poll is just to give us an idea. I promise in no way that what gets voted the most will actually happen. Mick and tjrgg are sleeping so I thought I'd pick up some opinions so we can take actions fast.

As most of you know, Mojang has been locking a lot of accounts lately. Many people just lost access to their accounts and have no way to recover them.

Let me give my personal opinion on the entire account selling thing and after that I'll address some (possible) solutions. IMO there's no real solution to this.

I personally find the entire business toxic. It's not moral, most likely not legal and just a stupid thing. You steal someone's account, sell it and make your pocket money with that? Yeah, that just sounds terrible. Let's also not mention it's a very unstable business in many ways. Locking accounts, People TID'ing their accounts back, and the list just goes on and on. When I became admin back in August, I told the previous owner the same thing and I was honestly thinking "Removing the sale of accounts could actually make the forum less toxic and less of a scam paradise". Many months after that thought, I can confirm it 100%. I went through many threads, scam reports and sections and I believe removing the account section would be one of the best moves for the future of MC-Market.

Another that's worth mentioning, Scam reports. I don't see any possible solution to the countless chargebacks that will occur. So I highly doubt we could providing further support on scam reports regarding account sales.

So, what solutions do I see:
  • The most logical and most effective would be to disallow the sale of accounts on the entire forum completely. We can't do something like "remove the sections but allow sale of it". We either allow it, or not at all. Reason behind this is scam reports. Now you might say, "Allow the sale of accounts but don't provide support on scam reports." - We can't do that. If someone scams by selling accounts, we'd have a scammer on the forum, everyone would be calling him a scammer while it can't be resolved via a scam report.
  • Ignore the entire situation and continue the sale of accounts. - I really can't see this happening. I just can't...
Suggest anything as I'm completely out of ideas. I'll add anything reasonable to the list and poll.

As for MCM's future, most people are saying "RIP MCM". I think this is far from true. Sure, sale of accounts is a big thing. Sure, it's bringing a lot of traffic. However, removing it will not make the forum die. I personally have been brainstorming around MCM ever since I've joined the staff team and i've shared some of my secret ideas which could make MCM grow with some people and most of them liked them! However right now, the forum is improving, but accounts are not worth having anymore with these recent events. The amount of reports, scam reports and administration it brings along simply makes it not worth having imo.

I never really showed this much hate against the entire account selling business but I think it's getting really terrible now and I'd personally like to see accounts removed from MC-Market completely.

Vote. If you have anything to say, please don't hesitate to do so.

Keep everything on topic and clean. I'll remove any posts which are irrelevant and don't contribute to the thread. it's a serious thing and should be treated as such.
 
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just ask everyone to move to https://minemart.org or shutdown the whole of the accounts selling and buying and make people private sell them[DOUBLEPOST=1456780983][/DOUBLEPOST]tbh I would lock down the accounts section, till everything is fixed
 

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Finally.

I'd rather just remove support for account selling altogether.

(Been planning on making a thread about that)

We encourage and support the violation of our own TOS by allowing it.
There's no reason for allowing account selling other than "The people wanted it".
Well great.
 

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Lock the section for a month private sales will happen
 

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should have tagged me because it was my idea to make this thread :(
 

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I agree one hundred percent, I don't really like the selling and trading at all. I do believe however that it might be nice to have a special discussion subforum for discussing OG accounts (But not trading them, just talking about ones becoming available / how to snipe them (for example the new developments in gc sniping) etc.) so that people can still use the forum to discuss OG accounts.
 

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Some people also use this section to discuss upcoming account names and snipers. Will removing the whole accounts section remove peoples ability to discuss this?

I would change the accounts section not into a place to buy and sell accounts but a more minor section to discuss upcoming account names.
 

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I think it should not be removed.

I've spent a lot of money getting these accounts, I haven't sold a single one yet.

Yes, it's a problem Mojang have fucked up the OG Business entirely, but I don't really have much talent in anything else.
The only other thing I can confidently do is things like setups, Sys Admin jobs and configurations. Most of that market is completely bloated with bullshit like "Add my Skype" without stating any prices, so I don't have anywhere else to move to on MCM.

What we really need is someone from HackForums or [Censored] to get hold of the database and make some kind of checker. (e.g enter email migrated to, and get email used to create).
 

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I think it should not be removed.

I've spent a lot of money getting these accounts, I haven't sold a single one yet.

Yes, it's a problem Mojang have fucked up the OG Business entirely, but I don't really have much talent in anything else.
The only other thing I can confidently do is things like setups, Sys Admin jobs and configurations. Most of that market is completely bloated with bullshit like "Add my Skype" without stating any prices, so I don't have anywhere else to move to on MCM.

What we really need is someone from HackForums or [Censored] to get hold of the database and make some kind of checker. (e.g enter email migrated to, and get email used to create).
If you don't want it removed. What do you suggest otherwise? I'm open for any suggestions.
 

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I think that you're totally wrong. You can easily avoid being scammed, and PayPal disputes are very easy to win if you're the one who is being scammed. Selling accounts is not morally wrong, if the people played then they would take their account back via a TID, and if they don't have it - well it's their fault.

If people can't sell accounts they may just leave -which means a lot of premium users leaving, you've probably never sold accounts before, but you're making your decision / opinion, when you don't know how the people who earn decent cash from selling accounts would feel.

I understand the "moral issues", but at the end of the day it's Minecraft - who genuinely cares?


If you want a new system, then this should be it -


People sign into their MC accounts in MC-Market, and people purchase through MCM, and then they get the account password from an email from the market.

Alternatively -

You have to have a transaction ID to trade your account.
Are you missing the point of this thread? Mojang is banning any accounts that are being sold.
 

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You could have non-premium members not be able to see it. That way, Mojang will have to pay at least 10$ to mess with us.
Mojang makes at least $100 every second. You really think they care about money? We've had 30k member registrations since the founding of MCM. There's literally no way for us to block any mojang employees from accessing MCM.

@everyone, I'm looking for other reasonable suggestions before this poll gets too one sided.
 
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