Allow the sale of Full Access Accounts/Alts, etc.

[World]

Before I get into this suggestion, I'd like to state that I am aware of this suggestion being posted before, but I want to show a different look at it and allow the community to say there say.
So allowing the sale of full access accounts/alts, etc. should be allowed. Now you may be thinking why? Well let's get right into it, shall we?:

1) Allowing the sale of accounts (Full access, etc.) will not only attract more users to the forum, but users will be able to buy cheap accounts for minecraft, etc.

2) The sale of accounts, will make a stronger economy on MC-Market. If you are worried about scam reports and such, you could put limitations to sell such accounts (Premium, Certain time registered on the forum, certain posts, etc.)

3) Now I know one of the reasons staff may not implement this, because Mojang may sue you. But from what I re-call, when Mojang lawyers contacted Verringer, they had no reason to sue MCM, because MCM wasn't selling accounts it's just a marketplace, the people were.

4) Going back to Step 2, you could also put limitations... for example people have to place the specific warranty of accounts and such. This will reduce the scamming part of adding such accounts for sale.

5) Staff have declined this multiple time, but from my point of view I see people wanting this implemented. So please staff, listen to the members and consider the following points above.

- Regards, World

 

[Gunny]

Yes, because more cracked accounts on the market will help. ;P

 

[Fire]

Almost all alts are accounts that people have cracked. We don't allow the sale of stolen plugins, we don't allow the sale of stolen builds, so why should we allow the sale of stolen accounts?

 

[Ivain]

This has been suggested a multitude of times, and will keep being denied.
I assume you weren't there during the time when any sort of accounts were allowed, but we had 3 scam resolvers back then.
We also averaged about 3 pages of scam reports, about 75% of which were account-related.
The simple answer is no, we don't want to go back to that.

 

[Vineetism]

Yes, because more cracked accounts on the market will help. ;P

Almost all alts are accounts that people have cracked. We don't allow the sale of stolen plugins, we don't allow the sale of stolen builds, so why should we allow the sale of stolen accounts?

I see where both of you are coming from however the aspect of people having cracked accounts, I don't think people care about as much as long as they get they're product they won't care.

 

[Ivain]

I see where both of you are coming from however the aspect of people having cracked accounts, I don't think people care about as much as long as they get they're product they won't care.

Thing is, we care. We, as the staff team of this site, REALLY don't feel like all the bullshit and drama that are associated with full access and lower.

 

[Machi]

Do you really want to ruin accounts for MCM again..

 

[Fire]

I see where both of you are coming from however the aspect of people having cracked accounts, I don't think people care about as much as long as they get they're product they won't care.

But those people are the first ones to create scam reports if the accounts original owner, manages to take it back. We like Doge, we don't want him to no longer be able to use MCM because he's too overworked dealing with all these.

 

[World]

Yes, because more cracked accounts on the market will help. ;P

They will attract more users to the community, and yes it will actually be beneficial.

Almost all alts are accounts that people have cracked. We don't allow the sale of stolen plugins, we don't allow the sale of stolen builds, so why should we allow the sale of stolen accounts?

Stolen Accounts? So people on this forum could sell netflix, spotify cracked accounts, but not minecraft?

This would allow even more cracked and stolen accounts to be sold on markets. This would also create a number of scam reports of alts not working etc. This forum generally doesn't like the sale of stolen and cracked products, this has been suggested multiple times and has been denied, there's no point making another.

As stated above, this market allows the sale of cracked netflix and spotify accounts, but not minecraft. Also regulations and rules may be put in place.

This has been suggested a multitude of times, and will keep being denied.
I assume you weren't there during the time when any sort of accounts were allowed, but we had 3 scam resolvers back then.
We also averaged about 3 pages of scam reports, about 75% of which were account-related.
The simple answer is no, we don't want to go back to that.

That's why precautions and rules should be placed. Provide a warranty, be active on the forum for a certain amount of time/have a rank.

Thing is, we care. We, as the staff team of this site, REALLY don't feel like all the bullshit and drama that are associated with full access and lower.

Again, limitations and rules could be put in place.

Do you really want to ruin accounts for MCM again..

I'm pretty sure, when MCM removed the sale of accounts majority of the community quit. Additionally, adding another item to be allowed sold in the community will attract sellers.

But those people are the first ones to create scam reports if the accounts original owner, manages to take it back. We like Doge, we don't want him to no longer be able to use MCM because he's too overworked dealing with all these.

That's why limitations and rules should be placed just like they are placed on OG/Semi-OG/Cape/Rank Accounts and Investments & Loans.

 

[Fire]

I'm pretty sure, when MCM removed the sale of accounts majority of the community quit.

You have been a member of MCM less than a month, the selling of accounts was allowed long before my time here, let alone yours. How can you be pretty sure that the "majority of the community quit". If they had, I'm sure someone would have mentioned that at some point, in all the other threads about allowing the sale of these accounts.

That's why limitations and rules should be placed just like they are placed on OG/Semi-OG/Cape/Rank Accounts and Investments & Loans.

Limits or no limits, they are stolen accounts that can be taken back at any time, a lot don't last longer than a week if you change the password, since the original owner just resets it, and that's that. The amount of scam reports over accounts that stop working, would be huge. The most trusted member on the forum could sell alts, and they are just as likely to be taken back as someone who joined yesterday. They just aren't a very safe thing to sell.

 

[World]

You have been a member of MCM less than a month, the selling of accounts was allowed long before my time here, let alone yours. How can you be pretty sure that the "majority of the community quit". If they had, I'm sure someone would have mentioned that at some point, in all the other threads about allowing the sale of these accounts.


Limits or no limits, they are stolen accounts that can be taken back at any time, a lot don't last longer than a week if you change the password, since the original owner just resets it, and that's that. The amount of scam reports over accounts that stop working, would be huge. The most trusted member on the forum could sell alts, and they are just as likely to be taken back as someone who joined yesterday. They just aren't a very safe thing to sell.

1) Yes I have been a member for less than a month, but I have more knowledge than most users of MCM {No I'm not an alt}

2) I'm sure majority of the community quit. Account selling is pretty much the major thing of MCM.

3) Yes, but take for example. Let's say a limitation is put that people have to state a warranty when selling accounts. If the account is taken back before the warranty then a scam report could be made. If a person does be sketchy and takes back accounts before the date, people could leave a DeVouch and less people would deal with the user.

 

[Machi]

You have been a member of MCM less than a month, the selling of accounts was allowed long before my time here, let alone yours. How can you be pretty sure that the "majority of the community quit". If they had, I'm sure someone would have mentioned that at some point, in all the other threads about allowing the sale of these accounts.


Limits or no limits, they are stolen accounts that can be taken back at any time, a lot don't last longer than a week if you change the password, since the original owner just resets it, and that's that. The amount of scam reports over accounts that stop working, would be huge. The most trusted member on the forum could sell alts, and they are just as likely to be taken back as someone who joined yesterday. They just aren't a very safe thing to sell.

1) Yes I have been a member for less than a month, but I have more knowledge than most users of MCM {No I'm not an alt}

2) I'm sure majority of the community quit. Account selling is pretty much the major thing of MCM.

3) Yes, but take for example. Let's say a limitation is put that people have to state a warranty when selling accounts. If the account is taken back before the warranty then a scam report could be made. If a person does be sketchy and takes back accounts before the date, people could leave a DeVouch and less people would deal with the user.

I've been on MCM for a year. I've been watching threads ever since Accounts, scam reports, and all. All I'm saying is allowing this will not be a plus for the community.

 

[World]

I've been on MCM for a year. I've been watching threads ever since Accounts scam reports and all. All I'm saying is allowing this will not be a plus for the community.

Year? That's it...
I've talked to Mick, I've talked to Verringer. I've been watching MCM for over 2 years.

So Spotify and Netflix accounts which are cracked are allowed to be sold, but minecraft no? I don't see the logic there.

 

[Fire]

2) I'm sure majority of the community quit. Account selling is pretty much the major thing of MCM.

Account selling is, but alts and full access are a smaller part of that, since the selling of accounts includes semis, OG's and capes.

Anyway, lets say a warranty of a week and I buy 10 full access accounts. The seller has nothing to do with them been taken back, its not them that does it, its the original owner and that is very unpredictable. Some of those are going to get taken back, and the seller would get devouched and negatively reped by people that don't understand. Their accounts just stopped working. Would be quite damaging to sellers.

So Spotify and Netflix accounts which are cracked are allowed to be sold, but minecraft no? I don't see the logic there.

Those accounts don't get taken back the same, and are a lot less risky.

 

[World]

Account selling is, but alts and full access are a smaller part of that, since the selling of accounts includes semis, OG's and capes.

Anyway, lets say a warranty of a week and I buy 10 full access accounts. The seller has nothing to do with them been taken back, its not them that does it, its the original owner and that is very unpredictable. Some of those are going to get taken back, and the seller would get devouched and negatively reped by people that don't understand. Their accounts just stopped working. Would be quite damaging to sellers.


Those accounts don't get taken back the same, and are a lot less risky.

Then the person could explain to the users, why, etc.? If all 10 accounts were taken back by the time the warranty ended, then it's a bit skeptical.

Also netflix and spotify accounts are still cracked? Doesn't matter if they are easy to take back or not... they are still cracked.

 

[Machi]

Year? That's it...
I've talked to Mick, I've talked to Verringer. I've been watching MCM for over 2 years.

So Spotify and Netflix accounts which are cracked are allowed to be sold, but minecraft no? I don't see the logic there.

Sorry, I thought Mick was the one who took away minecraft accounts? You really think allowing cracked alts will make Mojang think anymore of account selling? They already hate it but selling accounts that belong to others? Let's be real, you've already gotten 14 disagrees. This won't be allowed on MCM.

 

[World]

Sorry, I thought Mick was the one who took away minecraft accounts? You really think allowing cracked alts will make Mojang think anymore of account selling? They already hate it but selling accounts that belong to others? Let's be real, you've already gotten 14 disagrees. This won't be allowed on MCM.

15 Disagrees*
Mick was the reason MCM went corrupt. I'd say why and stuff, but it's "top secret". Anyhow, mojang EULA says "Account Selling"... doesn't matter if it's full access or og. The fact that people are selling accounts is already breaking Mojangs EULA. So would it really make a difference if people were to sell full access?

 

[Machi]

15 Disagrees*
Mick was the reason MCM went corrupt. I'd say why and stuff, but it's "top secret". Anyhow, mojang EULA says "Account Selling"... doesn't matter if it's full access or og. The fact that people are selling accounts is already breaking Mojangs EULA.

Yes but selling cracked accounts may cause law suits.

 

[Fire]

Mojang need money basically and the sale of alts and full access accounts cause them to loose money. Since people will buy a full access instead of a full price MC account. OG's aren't as bad, since the people that spend the big $ on accounts wouldn't buy an account from them, and are buying it for the name. So they aren't really loosing money. The last thing BeBosny needs is Mojang on his case about the sale of accounts.