Am I famous/known?

[Ally]

These threads don't currently fall under 1.8, but most of their replies do. Most people don't put a poll on these threads and so you get the typical, short, post-farmy response (Yes/No/Who are you?).

There was a trend last year in these threads and it's starting to happen again - and it's very mildly irritating opening up General Discussion to see 20 threads asking whether someone's known or not.

It would be nice to add a subrule to 1.8 such that "Am I known" threads and variations thereof are either moved to Feedback and Assistance or removed entirely. It's a question that could be asked in chatbox if strictly necessary (why?).

If not for removing them, mandate that as a rule, similar to reactions:

Do not post content to which a poll option could have been substitute, or which was already made apparent.

Eclipse suggested, alternatively, that:

Perhaps an 'off-topic' section that doesn't go toward post count for essentially useless comments like that

 

[Ally]

Perhaps an 'off-topic' section that doesn't go toward post count for essentially useless comments like that

Well that's what people have been using General Discussion for and it's mildly annoying. Might work for a little while but then people start going stupid.

 

[Jasmine]

I'd like an off-topic section and maybe general discussion could be Minecraft x MC-Market related and other stuff can be in off-topic. Overall I don't like banning these "Am I well known/famous" threads because I find them funny to read through but definitely a new category would be nice

 

[Lotus]

I don’t believe General Discussion even has enough activity to warrant a split into two sections.
Nor would I be in favour of making a specific subrule to account for this very minor situation.

Removing the threads outright would be wrong, but perhaps moving these threads to Feedback and Assistance might be a justifiable interpretation of 1.21 Do not post threads in the wrong forum/section.

Our current stance is nonexistent since it does technically fit in General Discussion too.

 

[Mason.]

I think we're looking at too many big changes for a small issue, if you could call it that. It doesn't bother me.

 

[Ally]

I don’t believe General Discussion even has enough activity to warrant a split into two sections.
Nor would I be in favour of making a specific subrule to account for this very minor situation.

Removing the threads outright would be wrong, but perhaps moving these threads to Feedback and Assistance might be a justifiable interpretation of 1.21 Do not post threads in the wrong forum/section.

Our current stance is nonexistent since it does technically fit in General Discussion too.

My justification for the removal of these threads as an option is that in bulk it does render General Discussion overall meaningless. There are plenty of active, healthy threads there that get drowned out without being bumped (since you can't bump threads there).

Alternatively, you could apply the subrule to similar situations by means of paraphrasing, yes?

I wouldn't consider these threads General Discussion either. They rely on others' input for the express purpose of measuring popularity and responses, which is clearly a Feedback & Assistance -style thread. I can see why it would be ambiguous but they aren't unique threads either.[DOUBLEPOST=1594986349][/DOUBLEPOST]

I think we're looking at too many big changes for a small issue, if you could call it that. It doesn't bother me.

Too many big changes? I just proposed alternatives in the event one isn't suitable. Not sure what you mean sorry

 

[Zero]

If you have to ask if you are well known / famous you already know the answer.
People need so much attention and confirmation from others these days, kinda sad.
Especially when looking at how much money people spend just to impress others facepalm

 

[Mason.]

My justification for the removal of these threads as an option is that in bulk it does render General Discussion overall meaningless. There are plenty of active, healthy threads there that get drowned out without being bumped (since you can't bump threads there).

Alternatively, you could apply the subrule to similar situations by means of paraphrasing, yes?

I wouldn't consider these threads General Discussion either. They rely on others' input for the express purpose of measuring popularity and responses, which is clearly a Feedback & Assistance -style thread. I can see why it would be ambiguous but they aren't unique threads either.[DOUBLEPOST=1594986349][/DOUBLEPOST]
Too many big changes? I just proposed alternatives in the event one isn't suitable. Not sure what you mean sorry

Yeah - a subrule because there's a post trend? Seems a bit unnecessary, in my opinion.

 

[Ally]

Yeah - a subrule because there's a post trend? Seems a bit unnecessary, in my opinion.

Maybe. But there are dozens of threads like it and they all incite post farming...

 

[jxhdvn]

This is something pretty minor and shouldn't matter in a rule sense at all

 

[User]

while we're at it, can we add a "1.24. Don't be a pompous idiot"?
but yes, by all means, get these threads away from here. I'd personally prefer for them to be yeeted off the site entirely, but if they're moved to feedback, at least it's a start.

This is something pretty minor and shouldn't matter in a rule sense at all

When it's making up about a half of all the recent posts in the largest section of the forum, I'd say it should.

 

[jxhdvn]

while we're at it, can we add a "1.24. Don't be a pompous idiot"?
but yes, by all means, get these threads away from here. I'd personally prefer for them to be yeeted off the site entirely, but if they're moved to feedback, at least it's a start.

When it's making up about a half of all the recent posts in the largest section of the forum, I'd say it should.

In 3 months or less this will all roll over

 

[User]

In 3 months or less this will all roll over

and if the suggestion is accepted, it'll all roll over in 3 weeks instead (and never come back)

 

[Sullybash12]

Am I famous though?

 

[Mick]

Perhaps an 'off-topic' section that doesn't go toward post count for essentially useless comments like that

This is exactly what we used to have. We had general discussion and then off-topic. I ended up removing off-topic and moving all of those posts over to general and I think that's worked pretty well.

I don't particularly like that idea for the rule, and would much rather we don't make policies against such niche and unharmful things. Trends like this come up pretty often and they're usually always dead within a few days so it's not too much of a problem.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion