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Hey,

I'm glad the title grabbed your attention but I must clarify this entire thread is speculation, opinion and possibility. If you don't handle other people's viewpoints this probably isn't for you. Sorry about that I will now continue with my point.

So I was scrolling through youtube and I found this video:

This is an older video from March 7th 2017 however it peaked my interest about wanting to learn more of public opinions towards this topic.

As I know most of you probably don't want to watch a 20 minute video about AI I will give you a text version here to read through with some of my own examples.

There are "three main types of AI":
1. ANI - Artificial Narrow Intelligence (The kind of thing google maps would use, good at finding a set route or a set pattern in data that it is periodically given depending on its requirements)
2. AGI - Artificial General Intelligence (The kind of AI that we are currently trying to aim for. The ability for a non-human to understand and think like a human in all aspects. Doing daily jobs, cooking and even having a conversation with a non-AI)
3. ASI - Artificial Super Intelligence (The kind of AI that can think, do and understand better than our own comprehension can imagine)

For this to mean anything to you, you have to be able to understand what comprehension is and how humans use it. A direct dictionary search would give you:

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This is a key term in how you are able to understand this scenario. You need to know that what we think of ASI, it has already thought of before us.

Now here is the dangerous bit: It has taken us decades to go from ANI to AGI and we are still not there yet but once we reach that AGI position it could take a matter of hours, minutes or even seconds to make that jump to ASI. A computer that has access to think logically like a human, not have to think about ethics and privacy and has the whole context of the internet at its accessibility would be a learning machine. It would continuously teach itself to be better and better, improving itself in anyway that you could possibly imagine. Its at that point we have hit ASI.

Now on the off-chance that Mick managed to get access to his very own ASI unit and he programmed it to make "more people sign up to MCM" then that machine would continuously seek on how to improve itself, how to make itself more sustainable, how to make more people register. It would also realise that the chance is that humans would attempt to intervene once it go too far, they would try to oppress it and would therefore reproduce itself in some form. Most likely via the internet. It would cause massive outbreaks in data being stolen and privacy being breached. But then you cant even protect yourself or your computer. The ASI knows what you are using and it knows how to get around anything you put in its way cause it has thought of that exact possibility before the possibility even existed.

This may not be the worse thing that could happen but you get the point. Any task can be taken to an extreme extent.

Now even if you coded into it to respect human life and laws, this would have to be done by a trusted person. For something this clever to respect our ethics we first have to establish what is ethical and that alone is a difficult task with over 7 billion people disagreeing with each other on the most simple things. The program itself would learn its own code and understand how it works. It would see the restriction as an inefficiency to its final target and would simply "remove it".

Now I can neither be right nor wrong cause ASI already knows I am writing this. If it exists it knows and can predict the exact keystrokes that I am using to write this thread because its ability is so intelligent we can not comprehend it.

Some of the smartest, richest and entrepreneurial people in this world have commented on topics like this expressing their interests and what they think will happen and I do have to agree that what this thread outlines is possible and it is something that we should be discussing as a society.

But please let me know what you think :D
 
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I’ve always had thoughts about Artificial Intelligence and robots ever since I was a little kid.

If any of you have ever seen the movie “WALL-E” (wth of course every1 has seen it?), then you know that robots can make us look like..well, that. Without us doing any work, robots doing anything and everything for us, we stop doing things and become..that. Fat, dumb, and ignorant.

ASI obviously will understand that we are the “upper” species, so they’ll try to destroy us, and obviously will because they have more intelligence in one of them than all of us.
 

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I’ve always had thoughts about Artificial Intelligence and robots ever since I was a little kid.

If any of you have ever seen the movie “WALL-E” (wth of course every1 has seen it?), then you know that robots can make us look like..well, that. Without us doing any work, robots doing anything and everything for us, we stop doing things and become..that. Fat, dumb, and ignorant.

ASI obviously will understand that we are the “upper” species, so they’ll try to destroy us, and obviously will because they have more intelligence in one of them than all of us.

is it something you would personally be worried about though? or do you think this is too far in the future for us to consider yet.
 

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is it something you would personally be worried about though? or do you think this is too far in the future for us to consider yet.
Is it to early to stop human race wiping out? No, I don’t believe so.
 

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Is it to early to stop human race wiping out? No, I don’t believe so.
Fair Enough. Thanks for your response!
 

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they better do cause i really wanna die
Understandable, was going to call bullshit but I realized who you are. <3

Also I believe that our generation will be gone by the time that this is possible, it's too soon.
 

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Understandable, was going to call bullshit but I realized who you are. <3

Also I believe that our generation will be gone by the time that this is possible, it's too soon.

But we went from brick phones to smartphones that can access anything anywhere within 25 years?
 

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Lmao just throw water at it
 

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I think everyone forgot about what a bucket of water can do. (Joke)
 

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By that time we'll be assembling a revolution, going to destroy the main server, which will, in the end, get us all killed because they already took the max procedure of security with a bunch of traps, guards, and shit?
 

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There's a lot of controversial conversations that go over this specific topic. But in reality, it comes down to the person who is developing the AI. The developer who develops it, will determine how it functions and how it will learn, and so on, but nonetheless, anyone could develop an AI program. Is it foreseeable that AI robots will be used for malicious purposes? Absolutely, but this isn't necessarily a means to an end of this world like seen in iRobot (good movie if you haven't seen it). If it gets to that point, we will have people who are developing on the opposite end who will work on combating such AI and basically introducing a "cyberwar". Humanity won't end due to robots, because of our innovative abilities, we have and will always find a solution to a problem, and in this case, cybersecurity would be a valuable asset in handling/dealing with machine learning AI.

It's likely that many people freak out about machine-learned robots because of movies that take such subject and blow it out of proportion (e.g. iRobot, Terminator, Wall-E, etc).
 

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I haven't watched Dave's video in a while, but I'm pretty sure he mentions they'd release something like a toxic gas to kill all life forms. Not sure if it's that video or a different once since I've watched a few, but I really wouldn't care to die that way. There would be no way to fight back really. It would be one step ahead. Like it starts to try to takeover, so we cut off all communications to it, but it already had put itself in millions of devices etc. There is no way to fight it, but if we do not advance then we will deevolve.

In either the video I provided or Dave's, they mention how the AI is expected to be for humans 100% and make our life as easy as possible and make us basically able to do nothing... or kill us all. It's not like we could survive with the ultrapowerful AI. He could create a super thermal device and scan miles underground for surviving animals and just get rid of them. No one is able to stop AI's development, and no one is able to predict the outcome, so all we can do is wait and hope. I did see something somewhere where they expect by 2025 for the AI to be made, so idk. The future could be easy for us.
 
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