Banning of all Forked plugins (IHCF, Para, Janitor, Sloth, ETC)

[Caicy]

I dont think its fair that these "Skid Developers" can make profit off someone elses work. They change one or two things and they call it a "CUSTOM PLUGIN" or a "CUSTOM FORK" well in reality its not fucking custom at all, you took someone elses work and are going to profit off of it because you cant code something like that because you are a shit developer.

Yup thats my view.
https://strawpoll.com/g7fg3xg

 

[subbotted]

Worked hard on? more than 90% of the plugin is already done for them

Not really. Depends what you do to it... That 90% can turn into 10% hella quick if you add loads of features...

 

[Eric]

Basically made my thread but added a load of autism.

 

[Cal]

That's the whole point we don't want 50 different shitty HCF servers. Just premium, high quality ones like MineHQ and (old) kohi. At the time para was good, but it's down now. If you can't afford to make a good HCF server, don't make one at all.

That sounds pretty messed up fam. That's like saying if you can't drive a Ferrari don't drive at all.

 

[Cal]

It sounds harsh, but there's a really gray area between a HCF server that has a lot of work put into it, and another 1 week 90% off sale "last day 90%" "90% off sotw" p1 s1 13 year old staff broken ass plugins HCF server.


If you can't afford to make a good server, don't make one at all. That's why we have shitty servers in the community, because all people care for is $$$$$$$$$.

Both of the servers are in it for money. What, do you think someone is gonna spend $1-2 thousand dollars and put in countless hours "For the community"? Because if you do, I swear to god you are the dumbest human being on the planet.

 

[kojoti]

I Agree, But people are forking to sell it thats wrong, I'm agree if people fork for there own use![DOUBLEPOST=1498283757][/DOUBLEPOST]Does someone knows a good hcf server with there OWN custom plugins?

 

[Cal]

Out of the 3 (semi-successful) server's I've made since I've started playing minecraft, all of them have been "for the community". All expenses go towards improving the server, if I need money I fucking work for it.

So you are saying it takes no work to make a successful server. Well then let me call up Guinness because you are about to get a world record my friend.

 

[ElegantDashes]

Personally I wouldn't completely remove forks, I think its alright if the developer selling the fork has permission to sell it from the original developer and has done a lot of work to the original plugin.

If you change the colours in messages in a fork and add a shitty feature to it thats simple to make and takes five minutes, then yeah, remove the thread/resource and give warning points and or suspend them. If its clearly had a lot of work added to it that taken more than just a few hours and the developer has permission to sell it (that is provided in the thread and/or vouched for by the original developer) then I don't see why you shouldn't be allowed to sell it.

However, I understand why you would want to ban forks as they are very controversial but if they work as described, you have permission and added lots of features/it is a 'good'/'decent' fork then I personally wouldn't see a problem with it.

Example:

Good Fork Shit Fork

Good Fork = Should be allowed
Shit Fork = Should be banned

Original Plugin:
/teleport
Non-configurable
No MySQL support
No /tphere, /tpaccept, /tpo, /tptoggle etc

Forked Plugin:
/teleport, /tphere, /tpaccept, /tpo, /tptoggle
Fully configurable (all messages, settings, etc)
MySQL support
Other good features

Original Plugin:
/teleport
Non-configurable
No MySQL support
No /tphere, /tpaccept, /tpo, /tptoggle etc

Forked Plugin:
/teleport, /tphere
Added features configurable, no old/original features configurable
No MySQL support
No /tpo, /tptoggle, /tpaccept etc


I know a teleport plugin is a rather shitty excuse as they aren't hard to make anyway but what I'm getting at is if you evidently work hard on it and shit then you should be allowed to sell it.

Thanks,
subbotted.

Meaning TheCore should never have been allowed?

This is a very hard question. A very good argument to get forks banned is looking at what happened to iHCF. Everyone started making "forks" of it. Some had permission from the owner(Scar) but many did not. If forks are to continue very clear rules need to be enforced on how the original-owner permission system works. An example is what happens when for example i get permission and i sell src to someone else? they can't receive selling rights, And if these rules are broken punishments such as Temp bans and warnings need to be used.

 

[Mick]

As other people have said above, as long as the product that you're forking is open source/allows it, it's completely fine to be distributed on MC-Market. Even if we were to make it against the rules to sell forked products it would be extremely difficult for us to determine how transformative it is.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.