Builds vs Building Punishment

[Cadey]

Hey there, so basically I've noticed this trend that when people make a post in the "Builds" section it is spammed with build teams advertising and giving prices. I understand build teams may be able to meet the requirements however people normally post in the Builds section because they are looking for builds that are already made whether its premade or exclusive.
With this being said, there are two sections, "Builds" and "Building" I feel as though users looking for a build team should post in the Building section and that's where build teams and builders should be able to respond. I feel as though Build teams should NOT be able to respond in the Builds section, flooding chat, when someone says "Looking for a premade hub" or something along those lines. I find it very annoying that comments get flooded with build teams in the Builds section. I think this should result in a warning and then a suspension of some sort.

 

[TellTale]

One can easily clarify this in either title or thread. Why complicate it?

 

[Cadey]

One can easily clarify this in either title or thread. Why complicate it?

Because I've clarified it in all my threads and they still get spammed with build teams. They don't read it, they just post scripts hence why I made this thread in the first place. When a thread says "I'm looking for a premade build, please no build teams" and they still respond that's out of hand.

 

[Ivain]

If a buildteam spams your thread with a service that you explicitly said you did not want, report them for off-topic posts. That should be all that's needed, no need to explicitly forbid people from offering services in the 'builds' section, because they'll still ignore that distinction. The only thing that would make them stop is it being enforced, and we can already enforce it without having to forbid other services.
Also, there are often people asking for premades of extremely unlikely things (a huge pirate-themed spawn, 50 prisonmines exclusively, that sort of thing), and saying they don't want a buildteam. Yet in such cases, a buildteam is literally the only way they're likely to get that.
I do not think it should be forbidden to offer a service in the 'builds' section, this will stifle trade to no end. However, for staff to add a sub-definition to off-topic that includes people pasting a service offer in a thread that explicitly denies that service would be a good idea.[DOUBLEPOST=1503577383][/DOUBLEPOST]alternatively, with the current rep system, if the same buildteam does this more than once, and after you warned them not to, you could give them negative reputation along the lines of "explicitly ignored my statement that I did not want to hire a buildteam and spammed my thread anyway".
Ideally that is not what the rep system should be used for, but you can bet anything that they'll stop very quickly.

 

[Cadey]

I do understand your points however I reporting them for off topic posts would be ignored by staff. In addition why report for off topic post where staff could see "Builds" and then a build team comment and think its a false report, when staff could add an actual reason / rule against this.

Also, there are often people asking for premades of extremely unlikely things (a huge pirate-themed spawn, 50 prisonmines exclusively, that sort of thing), and saying they don't want a buildteam. Yet in such cases, a buildteam is literally the only way they're likely to get that.

And I agree with this as well, there are certain builds people look for that most likely will NOT be found premade. Hence why there is a building and a builds section. If you are looking for a build team, you post in the building section, if you are looking for a premade build you post in the builds section.

You can see here that the "Builds" section is posted under the category "Minecraft Marketplace"

And you can see here that the "Building" section is posted under the category "Minecraft Services"

A build team is considered a service, so if you were to need a service you would post in the building section. If build teams are allowed to spam within the builds section then why have these two different categories, that's basically making them the same thing. Basically what I'm trying to get to here is if I ever wanted a map made I would post in the "Building" section because that's what its there for. If I want a premade build I'm going to look / post in the "Builds" section and I'd think its ideal to be able to do that without getting 10+ responses from a build team. I'm not understanding the reason for these two categories if build teams can spam post in both of these.

However, for staff to add a sub-definition to off-topic that includes people pasting a service offer in a thread that explicitly denies that service would be a good idea.

I agree with this idea completely, I know it's a bit off topic however I think most people are tired and annoyed of service teams posting the same script on every single thread they possibly can.

 

[Ivain]

I dont generally have a major problem with the pasting of the scripted replies (you can see my opinions in the relevant suggestion), but pasting without even looking if it's wanted in the thread goes too far for me as well

 

[Mick]

What're our thoughts on changing the name from 'Builds' to 'Premade Builds' or something like that, so the name of the forum is more distinct compared to 'Building'.

 

[Satelliting]

What're our thoughts on changing the name from 'Builds' to 'Premade Builds' or something like that, so the name of the forum is more distinct compared to 'Building'.

Yes, but all build teams would have to do is to say they have premade builds also.

Not saying I agree or disagree, but that would not solve what the user is talking about really.

 

[Mick]

Yes, but all build teams would have to do is to say they have premade builds also.

Not saying I agree or disagree, but that would not solve what the user is talking about really.

Yeah, and if they want to do that then they can sell their premade builds in the correct section and do their commissions in the 'Building' section.

 

[MrCelestial]

What're our thoughts on changing the name from 'Builds' to 'Premade Builds' or something like that, so the name of the forum is more distinct compared to 'Building'.

Pre-builds sounds better in my personal opinion and would clearly separate the two. I also feel like both builds and building should have sub forums, for example "Commissions" and "Build teams" would be good ones to have in building

 

[Mick]

Pre-builds sounds better in my personal opinion and would clearly separate the two. I also feel like both builds and building should have sub forums, for example "Commissions" and "Build teams" would be good ones to have in building

Pre-builds sounds like the process before building. 'Prebuilt builds'?

 

[Cadey]

Yes, but all build teams would have to do is to say they have premade builds also.

As Mick stated, I don't mind if a build team has premade builds however it just gets annoying when they do the usual "My build team can do this for you (with a portfolio and such)" When you post in the "Builds" section and ask for a premade build because they are different sections for a reason.

What're our thoughts on changing the name from 'Builds' to 'Premade Builds' or something like that, so the name of the forum is more distinct compared to 'Building'.

I believe this could help the situation, although it may continue a bit, it would definitely be decreased with the specification of the section.

 

[MrCelestial]

Pre-builds sounds like the process before building. 'Prebuilt builds'?

Yeah you're right about that.. lmao my bad.

 

[Mick]

What're our thoughts on changing the name from 'Builds' to 'Premade Builds' or something like that, so the name of the forum is more distinct compared to 'Building'.

This was implemented, so I guess I'll move this to accepted?

I don't really know where this suggestion would fit in, so yeah, accepted it is.


Thanks for the suggestions and input everyone.