Change My Mind: Cape Codes Should Be ALLOWED

[US]

• With code prices reaching $500+ for just a 2016 (currently an active buy order of $600 for a 2016) everyone uses middle-men at these prices.

• Set up a popup that says "Reminder: always use a reputable middleman!"

• Arguing that codes are too easy to scam is bullshit. Everything is fucking easy to scam if u are reputable. Furthermore couldn't you scam with bitcoin just as easily? (simply get the person to go first)

• The problem is not that cape codes are easy to scam. The problem are the people who wouldn't use a middleman (but these type of scams of getting people to go first HAPPEN IN EVERY CATEGORY).

• How do we prevent noobs from going first? You fucking can't. Give them a reminder to use a middleman (you cant prevent stupid, sorry its a fact).

• Finally, someone give me some got damn evidence of cape codes being more easy to scam than any other category. How is a cape code more easy to scam than a og account? (if the buyer goes first in both occasions they are at risk of scams.)

"You can simply fake a cape code by doing a google search for a minecon ticket."

1. You can do a reverse image search of the image (if they didnt edit it then you should find the same exact image).
2. What if they edited it? Ask, will you use Doge as a middleman? If they say no then I think you know the code doesnt exist.

Rules for cape codes:
1. If they refuse to middleman, either a suspension or a permanent ban from the cape code section.
2. Failure to prove that the code is legit (or its proven fake) is a ban.
3. Have its own section under Cape Accounts.


Day 1: Mind Changed?
No, not at all.

The common theme amongst those that disagree is that codes are untraceable. So is EVERYTHING in the gift code/license forum. Furthermore minecraft accounts have their own form of being untraceable. If an account has 5+ owners and one of them pulls it how does anyone find out who did it?

 

[US]

You're saying that the staff team needs to do something about gift codes (to create an equal environment with cape codes), but the problem is the consistency in which scams happen. There will be far more scammers for cape codes because of the value they have and their rarity compared to gift codes you can buy online 1:1

You made claims with no evidence again

 

[doodle]

You made claims with no evidence again

There is no evidence to give... I used the word "will" based on my opinion...

 

[US]

There is no evidence to give... I used the word "will" based on my opinion...

Well when Im asking for factual evidence in a suggestion as to why cape codes are not allowed, opinions do not actually help at all

 

[doodle]

Well when Im asking for factual evidence in a suggestion as to why cape codes are not allowed, opinions do not actually help at all

You made a suggestion, which is made for feedback on your idea. I am giving you feedback based on what I believe would happen and I explained why.

 

[US]

There is no evidence to give..

thank you, the end of this argument. Nothing is preventing cape codes from being implemented besides opinions.[DOUBLEPOST=1567199568][/DOUBLEPOST]

You made a suggestion, which is made for feedback on your idea. I am giving you feedback based on what I believe would happen and I explained why.

thank you, now I need some objective evidence as to why cape codes are banned. the evidence doesnt have to be from u, it can be from anyone

 

[doodle]

thank you, the end of this argument. Nothing is preventing cape codes from being implemented besides opinions.[DOUBLEPOST=1567199568][/DOUBLEPOST]
thank you, now I need some objective evidence as to why cape codes are banned. the evidence doesnt have to be from u, it can be from anyone

Cape codes are banned because of the fear they would attract lots of scammers. There are no government-run murder rings in the U.S. because of fear people would be murdered. They aren't just gonna try it to see if people would be, because it wouldn't be fair to those being murdered and the impact it would have on them and their surroundings.

 

[US]

Cape codes are banned because of the fear they would attract lots of scammers. There are no government-run murder rings in the U.S. because of fear people would be murdered. They aren't just gonna try it to see if people would be, because it wouldn't be fair to those being murdered and the impact it would have on them and their surroundings.

That is a horrible argument. If the government creates a murder ring, murder would inevitably happen obviously. If cape code deals happen you are assuming that scams would happen (which is true, scams would happen just like every other category that has ever been released). Please give me proof that the scams would be more abundant please.

 

[doodle]

That is a horrible argument. If the government creates a murder ring, murder would inevitably happen obviously. If cape code deals happen you are assuming that scams would happen (which is true, scams would happen just like every other category that has ever been released). Please give me proof that the scams would be more abundant please.

I cannot mention it here, as discussing competitor forums is prohibited

 

[US]

I cannot mention it here, as discussing competitor forums is prohibited

dont discuss comp forums, show proof

 

[doodle]

dont discuss comp forums, show proof

Proof is located within competitor forums, as that is where codes are mainly sold.

 

[US]

Proof is located within competitor forums, as that is where codes are mainly sold.

congratulations you just lost all credibility in this subject (and i am no longer responding to u)

you said this earlier:

There is no evidence to give... I used the word "will" based on my opinion...

ok so you were speaking based on opinion. Now you are speaking on FACTS that for some reason you "cant provide"!!!! Of course you cant provide it!

 

[doodle]

congratulations you just lost all credibility in this subject (and i am no longer responding to u)

you said this earlier:



ok so you were speaking based on opinion. Now you are speaking on FACTS that for some reason you "cant provide"!!!! Of course you cant provide it!

I stg people on this forum are incredibly stupid facepalm I was speaking based on my opinion. You asked me to gather facts so I did some research, which is located on places I cannot name on MC-Market.

 

[US]

I stg people on this forum are incredibly stupid facepalm I was speaking based on my opinion. You asked me to gather facts so I did some research, which is located on places I cannot name on MC-Market.

feel free to add my discord Bryson#3181 and provide it there.

 

[doodle]

feel free to add my discord Bryson#3181 and provide it there.

I will later, since I'm busy atm :tup:

 

[US]

I will later, since I'm busy atm :tup:

Translation: I caught you red-handed so ur going to research heavily on a comp site to find some proof on this just because you don't want to admit you are wrong.

 

[doodle]

Translation: I caught you red-handed so ur going to research heavily on a comp site to find some proof on this just because you don't want to admit you are wrong.

Translation: I have more important things to do in this world than take 10 more minutes out of my day to argue with you. Instead of accepting the fact you might be wrong, you refuse to admit that I have art commissions to finish and make up a lie.

 

[US]

Translation: I have more important things to do in this world than take 10 more minutes out of my day to argue with you. Instead of accepting the fact you might be wrong, you refuse to admit that I have art commissions to finish and make up a lie.

yet u keep responding

 

[doodle]

yet u keep responding

Because I know that if I stop responding, you'll make more lies saying you "caught me red-handed" - I have time since I have MCM on a tab, not Discord.

 

[US]

Because I know that if I stop responding, you'll make more lies saying you "caught me red-handed" - I have time since I have MCM on a tab, not Discord.

Give me a break, proof means u have screenshots. Add my discord and copy paste the screenshots (takes 5 mnutes). Don't pretend you are strained on time, your actively replying on a minecraft forum.[DOUBLEPOST=1567201503][/DOUBLEPOST]Lotus u can lock this thread if u want. Its a mere cancer-fest. I basically got the message you guys will never re-release gift codes. This is a big fat waste of time for everyone. Clearly some gray area in the rules.

doodle I was not personally attacking you, but if you make claims I demand proof. Whether you have proof or not clearly doesnt matter. Sorry if it came off as an attack.

if u want to keep this open go for it, but the next responses better be proof, statistics, ratios, etc[DOUBLEPOST=1567201820][/DOUBLEPOST]too much effort to continue

 

[Mick]

As others have said, the reason we disallowed cape code sales is that they are far too difficult to track and verify. There are theoretical methods that could be tried, but even still those methods would all have loopholes that scammers could easily use to bypass and scam anyways without any evidence that states otherwise.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.