Changes to the Reputation System

[Fawks]

Lets be real here, The reputation system is ruined how it is at the minute, over the last week I've had 3 false negative reps, all of which will not be removed.

I left a negative reputation for Urlin at 10:14AM, as seen below:

And Two minutes later, I get another one back saying:

There are no set rules on what is true or false reputation, should it be for deals only or opinions?

I think new rules should be implemented, as if I were to of not got rid of my false rep, I've totalled it up to 15-16 false negative reps for "scamming" or "toxicity"

This being said, I think it should be only for if you have been in contact for deals or trades, as quite frankly I'm sick of people whos server I've worked on, for free negative repping me for "immature and unprofessional" when in reality they told me to "fuck off, you seem like a scumbag anyways"

Just so everyone knows: please don't start a flame war in the replies section, if you have a problem with me being hypocritical or whatever, send me a pm.

 

[Leeiuum]

This is my two cents:

Regardless of how "toxic" some people consider it to be, reputation matters for business. Not for how someone reacts on the forums. I believe however that if it was personal messaging, such as on the site, Discord, etc and directed towards them (of course when dealing business). It should be mentioned as reputation.

Neither you or him should have negative reputed publically each other for a situation that could've been handled civilly.

Again, just my two cents.

But yeah, rules should state that "fake" reputation should be disallowed and should, in my opinion, be moderated in the near future.

 

[Ivain]

That example rep should definitely be possible to remove, report it with the entire story. I've successfully had all of those removed.

That said, on this suggestion itself, it should not be about done deals alone, as I've used it to devouch people selling stolen builds etc.
However, what I DO think we need is if you select "other", aka you're not the buyer or seller, you NEED to provide a link to the relevant thread. That way, it's way easier for staff to check if it's legitimate or not. You should be literally incapable of submitting it without a deal thread linked if you did not do a deal with them (people falsely claiming to be a buyer or a seller would count as abusing the rep system)
In addition, I'd still very much like a guide written by staff as to what they'll count as legitimate reputation and what not, just giving examples of what they've encountered in reports.[DOUBLEPOST=1503487187][/DOUBLEPOST]

This is my two cents:

Regardless of how "toxic" some people consider it to be, reputation matters for business. Not for how someone reacts on the forums. I believe however that if it was personal messaging, such as on the site, Discord, etc and directed towards them (of course when dealing business). It should be mentioned as reputation.

Neither you or him should have negative reputed publically each other for a situation that could've been handled civilly.

Again, just my two cents.

But yeah, rules should state that "fake" reputation should be disallowed and should, in my opinion, be moderated in the near future.

Fake reputation is already disallowed. However, there is no clarification as to what staff count as fake or not, which results in a LOT of confusion. I'd write a guide like this myself except staff would probably disagree with some of them.

 

[Fawks]

That example rep should definitely be possible to remove, report it with the entire story. I've successfully had all of those removed.

That said, on this suggestion itself, it should not be about done deals alone, as I've used it to devouch people selling stolen builds etc.
However, what I DO think we need is if you select "other", aka you're not the buyer or seller, you NEED to provide a link to the relevant thread. That way, it's way easier for staff to check if it's legitimate or not. You should be literally incapable of submitting it without a deal thread linked if you did not do a deal with them (people falsely claiming to be a buyer or a seller would count as abusing the rep system)
In addition, I'd still very much like a guide written by staff as to what they'll count as legitimate reputation and what not, just giving examples of what they've encountered in reports.[DOUBLEPOST=1503487187][/DOUBLEPOST]
Fake reputation is already disallowed. However, there is no clarification as to what staff count as fake or not, which results in a LOT of confusion. I'd write a guide like this myself except staff would probably disagree with some of them.

With my negative reps the staff have deemed them as legit, even the ones where I got called a scumbag, which you can see proof of attached

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First of all it's your mistake to leave a rep in place of someone else , did i hurt you? Did i even talk to you?
NO.

You remove the rep since you started this. I never had to deal with you but your making yourself the center of the attention by just making this more extra and pushing it.

I added your reputation as you made it clear you were out to make TheNotorious' Miserable, resulting in me and him both being kicked from the shoutbox.

I took his side because I felt that he was in the right, you can't leave a negative reputation for an opinion.

 

[Ivain]

With my negative reps the staff have deemed them as legit, even the ones where I got called a scumbag, which you can see proof of attached

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Thats weird. Anyway, I would suggest a very clear clarification of staff about how reputation is judged and what proof they want to see for something being false.
Im honestly surprised and disappointed that this has not been done yet, I've asked for it multiple times.
In the meantime, I suggest reporting it again each week, so that you do not spam their systems. Also add any new proof you can find, no matter how irrelevant it may seem.

 

[Leeiuum]

That example rep should definitely be possible to remove, report it with the entire story. I've successfully had all of those removed.

That said, on this suggestion itself, it should not be about done deals alone, as I've used it to devouch people selling stolen builds etc.
However, what I DO think we need is if you select "other", aka you're not the buyer or seller, you NEED to provide a link to the relevant thread. That way, it's way easier for staff to check if it's legitimate or not. You should be literally incapable of submitting it without a deal thread linked if you did not do a deal with them (people falsely claiming to be a buyer or a seller would count as abusing the rep system)
In addition, I'd still very much like a guide written by staff as to what they'll count as legitimate reputation and what not, just giving examples of what they've encountered in reports.[DOUBLEPOST=1503487187][/DOUBLEPOST]
Fake reputation is already disallowed. However, there is no clarification as to what staff count as fake or not, which results in a LOT of confusion. I'd write a guide like this myself except staff would probably disagree with some of them.

I see. Thanks for bringing this information to my attention.

 

[Fawks]

Thats weird. Anyway, I would suggest a very clear clarification of staff about how reputation is judged and what proof they want to see for something being false.
Im honestly surprised and disappointed that this has not been done yet, I've asked for it multiple times.
In the meantime, I suggest reporting it again each week, so that you do not spam their systems. Also add any new proof you can find, no matter how irrelevant it may seem.

I'd love to do that, but because of an ongoing case with the report system where you get warned for reporting threads, I'm going to result in support requests instead.

I found a thread from a long time ago where it even states to remove the reputation system because it will be abused here, but apart from that all other suggestions are fairly recent.

Oh my god are you kidding me? You don't even have to get involved in this! Who the hell invited you! You can't just leave rep like that , you are the one who's so wrong in here! I have nothing to do with you and later you leave rep! What the fuck , where the logic at?

You called him out in shoutbox, I don't feel that you should've done that so I gave you a negative reputation for being immature, as you are now.

As I clearly stated in the original thread.

Just so everyone knows: please don't start a flame war in the replies section, if you have a problem with me being hypocritical or whatever, send me a pm.

 

[Fawks]

Look who's talking , i never wanted to start this! You have nothing to do with this seriously. Stop getting involved on things you don't even know what your talking about. I can remove the rep anytime but you also have to point out that you have nothing to do with this nor you know any story what happened between us!

Ok, just completely ignore what I put at the end of that message. Thanks.

 

[Leeiuum]

Guys, please put it to DMs.

 

[Fawks]

Atleast i don't make a whole thread about this. Oh wait you gave me an idea!
Making a thread: PEOPLE GETTING INVOLVED ON DRAMA TO PROTECT HIS FRIENDS SIDE #FIXMCM

You're actually just being sad now, please just leave

 

[MachDZN]

I know I'm just a randy butting in here, but from this thread alone Gordon can leave you a negative rep. You're being toxic in a thread and kinda thread trashing, I believe its called? Take it to the dm's, you don't really need to fight on a thread. But back to the original topic, even if you were making Notorious feel miserable, anyone can look at it, ss it and then leave a negative rep, its part of the system. If you're toxic towards someone, anyone else spectating can leave a -rep. As far as I know anyways.

 

[Fawks]

Reputation is important for the people that actually run businesses on here. All of you kids that just sit in shoutbox all day being toxic to one another and then adding negative rep when you get kicked are going to ruin it.

I actually run a business unlike other people on this site, I just hang out on Shoutbox while I'm doing some work.

I rack up negative reps because of people like Suspicious lemon and urlin, unprofessional and immature and can't take criticism, or in the suspicious lemon case, can't take a devouch.

 

[MTG]

stop making threads over the stupid same topic over and over this is just stupid if u have a fucking problem then a open a support request and stop crying in the fucking suggestion