Chargeback Tips?

[okc]

Does anybody have tips and tricks to win a paypal chargeback? I'm the one charging back and it's not for a serve rsetup that I recently bought. Should I actually explain the facts to Paypal and try to win the dispute or use the VPN method? Thanks for your time.

Notes:
- I clearly told the seller that I was the only person with this setup and later I found out that a few others have it.
- $205 was what I sent him
- Sent through Friends and Family

 

[TheFancyWhale]

Why would you send through friends and family? Also, I suggest calling paypal. However, this really is your fault if you say you are paying family and friends.

 

[okc]

Why would you send through friends and family? Also, I suggest calling paypal. However, this really is your fault if you say you are paying family and friends.

Yeah it was a stupid decision on my part but I've heard that it's still possible to win the case. Does calling help any more than writing up a case?

 

[TheFancyWhale]

Yeah it was a stupid decision on my part but I've heard that it's still possible to win the case. Does calling help any more than writing up a case?

I can't speak for paypal but I would guess yes especially for intangible goods where you can easily explain what happened, rather than typing it out. However, you will have trouble regardless simply because of the family/friends thing.

 

[okc]

I can't speak for paypal but I would guess yes especially for intangible goods where you can easily explain what happened, rather than typing it out. However, you will have trouble regardless simply because of the family/friends thing.

Alright thanks but I've heard the VPN method works regardless of the type of payment.

 

[TheFancyWhale]

Alright thanks but I've heard the VPN method works regardless of the type of payment.

Then why did you make a thread if you know that? xD

 

[Jack]

Yeah it was a stupid decision on my part but I've heard that it's still possible to win the case. Does calling help any more than writing up a case?

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/ua/useragreement-full?country.x=US&locale.x=en_US#13

For virtual goods (intangible items) there is no buyer protection.
So unless you do make an unauthorized payment claim, there is 0% chance you can win, unless the seller decides to manually refund you in the dispute.
Even if you call them and explain, they will still just tell you to open a dispute.
VPN method as I described to you before is really the only way.

 

[okc]

Then why did you make a thread if you know that? xD

I've never had to do a chargeback in my life so I wanted to make sure my facts were right and that there were other methods in going about doing this

 

[okc]

Anybody know the consequences of losing an unauthorized claim?

 

[Wottsits12345]

ebola

 

[Jack]

Anybody know the consequences of losing an unauthorized claim?

Pretty sure if the payment IP / unauthorized claim IP don't match it's basically instant refund.
If they decide to investigate, they will probably deny your dispute and that's basically it..?

Also, the longer you wait / if you make any payments after the 'unauthorized' payment, probably won't work as well as if you did it ASAP.