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My budget relies upon your portfolio and your quality, I'm not looking to underpay nor overpay, so I need serious artists contacting me. I'm in need of a track (music) cover, and if successful I'll carry on paying at the same rate with an extra %. If your quality is outstanding but your price unreasonable, I won't deal with you until perhaps in the future, don't expect a huge check (in the hundreds). Don't have a portfolio, NO WORRIES! You'll be required to do some free designs before your main so I can see you're not wasting my time.

Here are some examples, but the design has to be unique, or how I describe it with unlimited revisions until I believe it's perfect.
https://graphicriver.net/rap cover-graphics
https://www.fiverr.com/bestogfx1/design-mixtape-cover-single-cover-or-album-cover-design
That's the idea.

FYI I can use this design commercially without crediting you, I obviously can't claim it was made by me or my peers. If I choose to credit you, that's out of appreciation outside of payment, if you start designing multiple designs I'll start crediting for your work and like said above with an extra % to help you grow.

Let's see which one of yall hits the opportunity :)
 
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IceLightning what's so funny don't be scared to speak out.
 
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IceLightning what's so funny don't be scared to speak out.
"You'll be required to do some free designs before your main so I can see you're not wasting my time" -You shouldn't ask the artist to do spec work. That's work on the speculation that they'll actually be hired for your position. They're giving you their time which they should be compensated for. It's also a dirty industry tactic to get free work out of artists that needs to be abolished. You're not going to find an actual business asking you to do example work before they hire you entirely for free. You don't have to give them a million bucks for a rough, but their time is worth payment.

"I can use this design commercially without crediting you" -No matter how much you pay for a design, the artist that makes it owns the copyright unless they forfeit it all to you. Anyone who would do that and let you use their designs without the credit is either inexperienced or stupid. And anyone who wouldn't credit an artist is just cruel. If you're planning on selling anything with this design they make for you they also should be entitled to a percentage of those profits, which I'm guessing you wouldn't provide.

You're also not looking to pay an artist above a couple of hundred dollars. Those album covers you posted most likely cost those producers THOUSANDS and you can't shovel out a few hundred. Those examples are also stolen art from real albums people take and put on those websites so they can slightly edit them for nothing but that's a different topic. Understandably, if you're looking for music art on a Minecraft website you're not going to find major professionals, but you should pay what they ask. Artist price their work according to experience and skill.

All I'm saying is you have a few red flags people in the design industry will tell you to look out for. I would suggest to anyone thinking about this "opportunity" to really look at their self worth and see they're better than this. But good luck in your search I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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"You'll be required to do some free designs before your main so I can see you're not wasting my time" -You shouldn't ask the artist to do spec work. That's work on the speculation that they'll actually be hired for your position. They're giving you their time which they should be compensated for. It's also a dirty industry tactic to get free work out of artists that needs to be abolished. You're not going to find an actual business asking you to do example work before they hire you entirely for free. You don't have to give them a million bucks for a rough, but their time is worth payment.

"I can use this design commercially without crediting you" -No matter how much you pay for a design, the artist that makes it owns the copyright unless they forfeit it all to you. Anyone who would do that and let you use their designs without the credit is either inexperienced or stupid. And anyone who wouldn't credit an artist is just cruel. If you're planning on selling anything with this design they make for you they also should be entitled to a percentage of those profits, which I'm guessing you wouldn't provide.

You're also not looking to pay an artist above a couple of hundred dollars. Those album covers you posted most likely cost those producers THOUSANDS and you can't shovel out a few hundred. Those examples are also stolen art from real albums people take and put on those websites so they can slightly edit them for nothing but that's a different topic. Understandably, if you're looking for music art on a Minecraft website you're not going to find major professionals, but you should pay what they ask. Artist price their work according to experience and skill.

All I'm saying is you have a few red flags people in the design industry will tell you to look out for. I would suggest to anyone thinking about this "opportunity" to really look at their self worth and see they're better than this. But good luck in your search I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You're pretty brave coming on my thread to tell me bs like I'm trying to get free work out of people, so I'll play nice because you're lost into a single lane and forgetting about the other. I've searched for solid days who's able to complete such work I'm requesting but cannot seem to find anyone, I'm not going into a 'specialist' team to ask if they have a freelancer available, as I've seen a scam report opened on a service team & it's too much of a hassle, so I've created a thread to specify what I need to be done. I've clearly stated this work is serious, so the people who are trying to earn money can forget about it if they're not able to complete my work, has happened in the past when I've requested for a banner or a logo, a designer has contacted me with poor portfolio when I've asked for high quality (has been covered by the great Deleted User 108547). I'm not going to compensate for others' time if they don't have a clear portfolio, am I supposed to give every designer in line my exact project that needs to be done? I'm not working for anyone/anything, so do not throw me into a box and call it a dirty industry, that's when you flopped on your point because the 'free work' is not supposed to be complete, it's supposed to be a sketch, from my point of view everyone doesn't value time as money, instead, they waste their time making money than actually beating time, therefore I don't see why I have to compensate when I'm dealing with a stranger, if I feel like they've tried their best I will compensate, in the nicest way to put it you're a clown to assume I wouldn't, why? 1st. you've never dealt with me so you don't know my style, 2nd. I have 0 negative comments suggesting I'm unreasonable, if anything most of my vouches says it otherwise, so I'm not being optimistical calling myself nice. I'm not looking for a business, if I wanted to I wouldn't be asking on MCM you donut, I love the community so I'd like to give someone good a chance, also you're pissing me off with your stupidity, why are registered businesses going to contact me in the first place if they know they don't have the portfolio, I've clearly stated I want someone skillful. Yes, I will give them a million if it's worth it, next time read my thread lightning bolt.

There's a reason I've stated why I'm not crediting if I choose to promote my work using the 'design' as a cover. If the artist would like to know you may contact me regarding it, as I don't want to disclose my plans on a public thread. Nearly everyone on here charges for a fixed price, so don't you think it's unfair you're putting me inside a bracket just because I'm doing something that earns good money? This is a one time job, meaning I'd like to have all the rights to the design, why? Because I may not contact them again. Just for your information since you're ignorant, I'm paying producers and artists higher percentages than me myself and I, because I don't care about the money, I'm doing it for the game, not the charts. And let us say the video blows up because it's a one time job I don't want them contacting me for the money when they could have done so before. I'm not looking for a quickly made transaction, I'm searching for the perfect man/woman (not sexist haha). You've guessed wrong, if the designer wants to carry on I'll have them made a huge percentage out of every video (Both Official & Audio) expecting to secure the bag. Know your opponent before you take them on, friendly advice :)

From the video, I'm not looking to profit out of it, so I've made it clear I'm looking to pay the normal price, not overspend because of my potential. What are you on about, how are these covers going to affect my producers? Are you assuming I'm working for someone or hired by a label, you should already know by my name? For these examples, I went on Google Images and clicked on the link, if you're passionate about the 'industry' which you've flopped to explain, I'll allow you to educate some people on my thread on how artists are underpaid. Again, not only you've put me in a box now you have put others inside it by stating everyone here is designing specifically for Minecraft, forgot about eSports, YouTube channels that aren't Minecraft related? Think before you speak. I believe there are some talented individuals as I know a couple of editors better than channels that have millions of views FROM this community. Like I said respectfully as possible I'm not looking to pay someone a lot just because of my potential.

I would suggest you start doing research, as you're not educated, artists don't get a percentage from music videos, they get it by stating their terms for commercial use with FIXED costs not variables, the only time they get percentages are if they're privately working for them to beat the competitive scene, even then it's a low amount, which is why you don't see them flashing their money around. Like you said I may not find someone qualified, which is why I've stated my terms as clear as possible, don't waste my time if you're not open to business.

I'd like to make it clear the percentages I have mentioned are massive, so if I earn $10k you'd be probably paid $3k from a single cover, and that's forever as long as the video is up you're earning. I don't lose, have another try taking me down <3
 
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So I've viewed everyone's creations for the amusement that have reacted and sided with his posts and you're not even qualified to bring that type of work onto the table, explains why you're not responding, Arcrimonia you seem to have experience around the area of covers however they don't even seem to be creative, while everyone who's capable of doing this has already contacted me without complaints on the pricing (so far), that says something? Ya'll don't even know what the project is about and assuming it's going to be stressful :rofl:

If you feel like I'm still doing something wrong, shout it out because I've explained everything above and I don't believe I'm in the wrong. IceLightning you're just mad you ain't able to compete for a percentage, am I wrong? Nah, don't think so. You barely even know what you're talking about.

I can also guarantee you don't even care about doing it in the future again, you just want to get out with as much money as you can from me, but that's not going to happen because you're incapable of completing it :tup:
 
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So I've viewed everyone's creations for the amusement that have reacted and sided with his posts and you're not even qualified to bring that type of work onto the table, explains why you're not responding, Arcrimonia you seem to have experience around the area of covers however they don't even seem to be creative, while everyone who's capable of doing this has already contacted me without complaints on the pricing (so far), that says something? Ya'll don't even know what the project is about and assuming it's going to be stressful :rofl:

If you feel like I'm still doing something wrong, shout it out because I've explained everything above and I don't believe I'm in the wrong. IceLightning you're just mad you ain't able to compete for a percentage, am I wrong? Nah, don't think so. You barely even know what you're talking about.

I can also guarantee you don't even care about doing it in the future again, you just want to get out with as much money as you can from me, but that's not going to happen because you're incapable of completing it :tup:
Nope, I have no interest in working with you. Please keep my name out of your mentions. Thank you!
 

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Nope, I have no interest in working with you. Please keep my name out of your mentions. Thank you!
Nah just luring all the clowns out, good day <3 You don't care about others, you don't care about me, you care about your bag, that's why you're not defending others, you're defending your bag. Don't want you either, stay out.[DOUBLEPOST=1605694720][/DOUBLEPOST]
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I think you dropped these red flags, dude.

No reasonably talented artist is going to do work for you for free, especially not with the attitude you’ve shown in the post. You linked a Fiverr page, if you like that style so much, then contact and commission them.
 

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I think you dropped these red flags, dude.

No reasonably talented artist is going to do work for you for free, especially not with the attitude you’ve shown in the post. You linked a Fiverr page, if you like that style so much, then contact and commission them.
Sounds like you haven't read my post so don't talk to me about attitude, not saying you have any just saying you may be missing out on a point, I have never mentioned for free, I'll require an idea of what they're able to do, how do you expect me to 'hire' anyone for an important project yet they have no portfolio to showcase their experience or past. I'm not looking to compensate for a so-called time therefore I don't want anyone wasting their time if they don't have the confidence. That's like me going to an art class and asking if they're interested in an important project without viewing their work. I've also mentioned why I'd prefer MCM over other sites, especially Fiverr, if I wanted professionalism I would have headed that way already.

If you have any more concerns I'll clear them up.
 
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Sounds like you haven't read my post so don't talk to me about attitude, not saying you have any just saying you may be missing out on a point, I have never mentioned for free, I'll require an idea of what they're able to do, how do you expect me to 'hire' anyone for an important project yet they have no portfolio to showcase their experience or past. I'm not looking to compensate for a so-called time therefore I don't want anyone wasting their time if they don't have the confidence. That's like me going to an art class and asking if they're interested in an important project without viewing their work. I've also mentioned why I'd prefer MCM over other sites, especially Fiverr, if I wanted professionalism I would have headed that way already.

If you have any more concerns I'll clear them up.

If they don’t have a portfolio, don’t deal with them, simple as that. Good luck finding someone who will give you unlimited revisions for under $100.
 

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If they don’t have a portfolio, don’t deal with them, simple as that. Good luck finding someone who will give you unlimited revisions for under $100.
I'm currently working with 3 artists ready to work on 3 different projects, I have discussed the percentages already with one artist and how it's going to work out, both agreed with it meaning it's fair for me & the artist. For the other two, prices have been arranged but still working out their productivity, if you believe I'm underpaying contact me privately and I'll briefly explain what's going on, the others are too ignorant to contact me, because they don't care about others. This is not only for you but for others as well, start putting more faith and trust into other people. Didn't trust one designer and turned out they're better than I thought, I know what I'm doing.[DOUBLEPOST=1605782865][/DOUBLEPOST]
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If they don’t have a portfolio, don’t deal with them, simple as that. Good luck finding someone who will give you unlimited revisions for under $100.
Like I said before, if I wanted serious business I wouldn't be here.[DOUBLEPOST=1605783257][/DOUBLEPOST]
Info's below. HMU, musician.
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Amazing work, but most likely a little over my budget, I'll contact you later :tup:
 
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Now I may not be an illustrator but I'm pretty sure I've never seen an illustrator without a portfolio and then the fact you won't credit the ones you paid, I feel like this would be something you see on r/choosingbeggers i mean its only logic I'm pretty sure your the clown here good day.
 

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Now I may not be an illustrator but I'm pretty sure I've never seen an illustrator without a portfolio and then the fact you won't credit the ones you paid, I feel like this would be something you see on r/choosingbeggers i mean its only logic I'm pretty sure your the clown here good day.
You never noticing an illustrator having a portfolio is an opinion, not a fact, and I've never seen a user joining since Saturday talk confidently about a market I've been in for a year or two. I haven't paid anyone yet, but I've never said I'm not paying anyone. I will quote myself to prove you wrong right now to earn my uno reverse card on your dreadful grammar, get it? Using a kids game on a kid's mind? Had to explain the joke to a kid as he wouldn't have got it. :tup:

"if successful I'll carry on paying at the same rate with an extra %"

"I'd like to make it clear the percentages I have mentioned are massive"

"forever as long as the video is up you're earning"

I've also said,
"I don't lose, have another try taking me down <3"

I've seen people doing dirty business in the exchange rates, I have also seen it within this & designs forum, came prepared. I'm open to Designs as well, as long as it's original resources and hasn't been stolen, if an artist decides to use a background, must have rights to do so.
 
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You seem more concerned about your self image and being correct than actually getting the product you want. Humble it out a bit.
Well, you see it's hard when I've got 5 people trying to bring everything out of context, and the ones who understand are left anonymous. However, what I want has been presented, I'm just having fun on my own thread.
 
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You’re 17 so I’ll give you a pass. No reasonable designer is going to do that amount fo work for you when you seem very demanding, overly entitled and rude. All of this talk about people “only doing it for the bag” is so silly.

Of course Artists are going to do it for money as their main motivator. They’re putting in the hours to work on a project with someone who seems to have very little respect for artists at all.

If you want a genuine design by a great designer with experience and a portfolio with like 10 revisions, you’re easily looking at $300-500. I can guarantee anyone working with you for less than that is only doing it because they’re desperate for “the bag”.
 

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You’re 17 so I’ll give you a pass. No reasonable designer is going to do that amount fo work for you when you seem very demanding, overly entitled and rude. All of this talk about people “only doing it for the bag” is so silly.

Of course Artists are going to do it for money as their main motivator. They’re putting in the hours to work on a project with someone who seems to have very little respect for artists at all.

If you want a genuine design by a great designer with experience and a portfolio with like 10 revisions, you’re easily looking at $300-500. I can guarantee anyone working with you for less than that is only doing it because they’re desperate for “the bag”.
Don't underestimate me for my age, you'd be surprised. I haven't said what needs to be done, there's a reason why it's lower than $100? Why do you think I've redirected the exceptionally well designers for the future. This is where 'waffle' comes in, no idea what you're talking about. I can guarantee you haven't read my response to IceLightning. Demanding, entitled, rude? You still haven't contacted me "if you believe I'm underpaying contact me privately and I'll briefly explain what's going on", yet you're still on my thread talking about it, I'd view you as hypocritical for these comments, and stubborn for misusing reactions, don't get too comfortable with it before I do.

I would understand the grind as a motivator most likely than anyone else here debating, it's a fact. Sketches don't take hours unless you're doing a full-scale piece of work, but anyway, that's irrelevant as you don't even know what the project is, except that it's a cover, right? I don't even need 10 revisions, and I'm not speaking about a revision after the deal has been complete, I'm talking about during the deal, if small mistakes were made it'll need to be changed.

Are you suggesting you know artists better than the ones I've hired? Bet.
 
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I haven't said what needs to be done, there's a reason why it's lower than $100?

The examples you posted are way out of a $100 range. You keep going back on what you said, saying you don’t want “serious business” but then saying in the original you want “serious artists only”.

As an artist, I am simply giving you my knowledge and point of view. You clearly don’t know much about making a living off artwork, and yet you’re trying to claim no one else understand but you. The sketching time depends on the artist and the project. You are the type of person to keep asking for revisions after everything is finished. Anyway, see you on r/choosingbeggars. Good luck finding your unicorn of an artist who can do 10 revisions for under $100, isn’t in it for the cash and is willing to put up with your level of entitlement.
 

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The examples you posted are way out of a $100 range. You keep going back on what you said, saying you don’t want “serious business” but then saying in the original you want “serious artists only”.

As an artist, I am simply giving you my knowledge and point of view. You clearly don’t know much about making a living off artwork, and yet you’re trying to claim no one else understand but you. The sketching time depends on the artist and the project. You are the type of person to keep asking for revisions after everything is finished. Anyway, see you on r/choosingbeggars. Good luck finding your unicorn of an artist who can do 10 revisions for under $100, isn’t in it for the cash and is willing to put up with your level of entitlement.
Your thread,
"5. I won't haggle my prices, they're already very low. If you attempt to bargain with me I will refuse your commission."
You had to lower your prices to increase sales, yet you're talking about my offers 4x higher than your prices + %. :rofl:
"6. Minor changes are free of charge up until the final sketching stage, after which I will charge you for them."
Really free of charge? When I said that you've reacted with a laughing emoji, contradicting your own Terms of Service?

$35 for a hand-drawn server logo, have any idea how much potential they could make from branding, with experienced advertisers on this site, maybe 17 but I'm clearly open-minded.

Are you blind, the second link literally has a price tag right under it, $12 for a template with over 60 sales made, that's $720 made for 60 different designs.

As an experienced designer, I'm stating you have a lack of judgment, you aren't able to sell your artwork, which is why you're complaining, because I personally know people making stacks off low commissions while being in college and having to complete assignments. You're giving out more emojis than your knowledge, pipe down, ain't smart.

So you blatantly ignored my post while reacting with a laughing emoji, missing brain cells, wouldn't be surprised, calling artists unicorns while you're here offering $10 for so-called well made avatars.
"I don't even need 10 revisions, and I'm not speaking about a revision after the deal has been complete, I'm talking about during the deal, if small mistakes were made it'll need to be changed."

"You are the type of person to keep asking for revisions after everything is finished."

I have a life, don't understand your reference with "choosingbeggars". Your brain cells won't even figure out what I meant by don't understand your reference. ;)[DOUBLEPOST=1605837048][/DOUBLEPOST]
Good luck finding your unicorn of an artist who can do 10 revisions for under $100, isn’t in it for the cash and is willing to put up with your level of entitlement.
Oh, don't think I've forgotten. "I'm currently working with 3 artists ready to work on 3 different projects" GL with your business.[DOUBLEPOST=1605837133][/DOUBLEPOST]Unexpected fans, god damn.

https://gyazo.com/449660a83e8cdc884f1b680fbd40c3c5[DOUBLEPOST=1605837262][/DOUBLEPOST]"Exactly, which is why I don’t believe he actually has 3 people “working on their productivity” with him... even the most cash starved (me) designer wouldn’t touch him with a 5 foot pole haha" :cool:
 
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