Disallow reputation for vouch copies -.-

[MTG]

Hello, I want to talk about the 'rep' thing again, but I just feel it's really stupid to see members with 50 POSITIVE REPUTATION have %95 of them from making a vouch copy of a build, It's just so stupid and unrealistic, I want to suggest that there should be a rule to disallow reputation from vouch copies, from all the sections.

 

[Ivain]

It would be so much simpler if all of you fools stopped thinking in numbers and started thinking in quality. The whole "number" dealio is why i was opposed to the rep system initially.

 

[Ivain]

it's just tough to know where to draw the line, because in theory a trade did occur whether it be someone just being friendly in sh outbox.

Far too often I see rep where no deal has even occurred, but what has happened is someone is friends with them and they +rep them for that factor alone.

If I actively went to ask all my connections AND everyone I ever dealt with to leave some rep of some sort for me, I'd probably have a hundred by now. But I just can't be bothered XD

 

[Christopher]

It would be so much simpler if all of you fools stopped thinking in numbers and started thinking in quality. The whole "number" dealio is why i was opposed to the rep system initially.

EXACTLY. I never liked the rep sys for that very reason. Looking at someones profile for vouches is SO much better, it means you can see if there are scam reports open, if they are professional, etc!

 

[Taiga]

This goes against what the current rep system is about: what the community thinks of you.
It would be kinda lame to disallow rep from vouch copies but allow pretty much any other kind of rep. People can rep you for thinking you are a cool person, which isnt near a valuable rep has a rep from delivering a finished product or service, even for free.

Ofc im not a fan of the current rep system, but I think we need a revamp of what rep is really about before starting to disallow smaller details

 

[MTG]

This goes against what the current rep system is about: what the community thinks of you.
It would be kinda lame to disallow rep from vouch copies but allow pretty much any other kind of rep. People can rep you for thinking you are a cool person, which isnt near a valuable rep has a rep from delivering a finished product or service, even for free.

Ofc im not a fan of the current rep system, but I think we need a revamp of what rep is really about before starting to disallow smaller details

I don't know how does a vouch copy have anything to do what the community thinks about you, lol.
Also there's some people who make some fast shit then give 20 vouch copies, and boom easy 20 reputation, without any work.

 

[Turtle]

just charge $0.01 then refund it afterwards

 

[Taiga]

I don't know how does a vouch copy have anything to do what the community thinks about you, lol.
Also there's some people who make some fast shit then give 20 vouch copies, and boom easy 20 reputation, without any work.

Given vouch copy -> person appreciates it -> gives rep. The community always appreciates free stuff, which makes them like you, which gets you rep.

As Turtle said above, you could just fake a real deal if it became a rule to not give rep for vouch copies. People who use vouch copies as a way to boost their rep will obviously ask people to vouch with a legit rep for free stuff.

 

[Kram]

I'm going to be completely honest here.
Most of my reputation (I think) are from vouch copies. Now, all my vouches are because of graphics and in all my graphics I try hard on all (or at least most) of my graphics. Now, when I give it to the user I don't ask for reputation (I did once or twice but that's when I first started). If the user decides to give the recipient of the reputation a +1 in rep then shouldn't they deserve that?
In the end, it gets to the point where it really depends on what both sides receive. If the buyer gets something high quality and the work through it was smooth then shouldn't the seller deserve a +1 reputation even though it was just for a vouch?
Now like Walmart, Taiga and Netflix said it gets hard to tell where you draw the line and people will just vouch for friends and reputation like that. To not allow reputation for all vouch copies is a little harsh in my opinion because some vouch copies really are good. At the same time, some, really are not.[DOUBLEPOST=1496297281][/DOUBLEPOST]

I don't know how does a vouch copy have anything to do what the community thinks about you, lol.
Also there's some people who make some fast shit then give 20 vouch copies, and boom easy 20 reputation, without any work.

It definetly may be fast but that doesn't mean no work went into those vouch copies. If those vouch copies were worth the reputation is up to the buyer and how much the product/service meant to him.

 

[n0tzach]

I still use the vouch system

Rep system is pretty much like kinda said above people giving thoughts about you, It should be about the deal you did (Proper deal... not giving away a shitty dick build or profile picture and asking for +rep)

 

[Kram]

I still use the vouch system

Rep system is pretty much like kinda said above people giving thoughts about you, It should be about the deal you did (Proper deal... not giving away a shitty dick build or profile picture and asking for +rep)

Well, here is what I think. The user who is getting the vouch copy has the end decision of giving the seller a +1 reputation. If the seller forces the buyer to give +1 reputation then that's a different thing and technically the buyer can just de-vouch the seller because they are forcing them to give a +1 rep.
My point is a vouch copy may be significant to the buyer and they might really like it and want to show others how great of a job they did. Maybe the buyer wants to go beyond just leaving a vouch.
People who are looking at the seller's reputation can always ask the buyer who gave the +1 rep what the seller gave them and see the quality of the seller. Or even just look at the seller's portfolio. <-- (don't know if the last 2 sentences make sense I'm writing this too late to proofread.)

 

[Mick]

Making more restrictions to the rep system like this isn't something that we'd want to do. I'm sure we can all agree right now that the reputation system is far from perfect, but making vouch copies not a thing doesn't really help anyone.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.