Disallow the sale of cheat clients

[Physic]

At this point just about all clients made have malware/rats, it's unsafe and unreliable and cheating is dumb anyways : ^ )

 

[Skionz]

Wasn't me talking about morals, most of us probably don't give a shit about cheating anyways, but it's safety I'm talking about

If you want to be safe BUY the software from the owner. Don't download a leaked version of it.

 

[Physic]

Physic ahh... haha... youre going by the funny stereotype that the word "hack" is correlated to the word "shady". no most of those kid use hacks as a joke to mess with people. they arent hacking anything they are just cheating. free clients are everywhere and, for somebody who has been playing mc since 2011, i can name you at least 5 that are usable with no rats (considering the person downloading is not stupid).


pieguy this isnt an argument, vän. i responded to every point in your message so please just dont try to comeback like that. there was recently a subclaim plugin going around that had a rat in it. by this i mean an ACTUAL rat, that allowed the user to execute ssh commands. there are rats around here and if they are priced right people can get ruined. hack clients arent that popular on here for the most part because the reputable sellers dont have them (afaik, im not providing a source just like you folks..). you cant provide any source on the risk of a rat so really how can you say that there are "that many" rats?

So what you're saying is you should be expecting something bad when downloading a client? Yeah, clients are shady. Look around at these client threads, they're all poorly formatted and many of them aren't even their own clients.[DOUBLEPOST=1455152966,1455152875][/DOUBLEPOST]

If you want to be safe BUY the software from the owner. Don't download a leaked version of it.

What I was getting at, even buying off of the original owner doesn't ensure safety. I understand you can say that about all software but clients/cheating in general has a horrible background in this community.

 

[Skionz]

What I was getting at, even buying off of the original owner doesn't ensure safety. I understand you can say that about all software but clients/cheating in general has a horrible background in this community.

Germans used to enslave and murder millions of people. Does that mean that most Germans are still horrible people?

 

[Physic]

Germans used to enslave and murder millions of people. Does that mean that most Germans are still horrible people?

yes

just kidding

meaning it still has a horrible background to this day, proving to be shit by the day.

 

[Physic]

This is the second client since the first one was sadly leaked and now we are here on MCM

Taken directly from http://www.mc-market.org/threads/74544

 

[Physic]

Yeah, a leaked verison that is very shitty. If you download it half of things don't even work as well of as the real thing. Spook was one of the most best clients with self destruct. When you have the leaked version it is so much easier to find.

And now there's a list of all of the players who purchased, courtesy of an undisclosed owner who (not sure about this part) sent the data to nikeboom.

 

[Physic]

Also, this video the user does not hack but found their account from a data base. I think you should do some research before posting videos like that. Another thing one of those videos spent over $100 for hacked clients. He got his account stolen because of cheating but that doesn't happen to many people. I used to use ghost clients and my accounts never got stolen.

Yeah, chose a wrong example, my bad. A video from the same user should suffice however!

Lost his account from a rat, stemming from a client[DOUBLEPOST=1455153917,1455153820][/DOUBLEPOST]

bro im sorry english is not my first language but did you even make an attempt to read my message? i am saying that the chance of finding a ratted client is low, depending on where you get it from. there is a site just for hacked clients and none of those have rats (i used to use alt managers in hacked clients for faction servers. its annoying to reboot mc 24/7). those ones are free, though.

You don't understand that you can be ratted but not know about it at all, provided you're not a target then it could forever until damage is done. By then it's too late

 

[Physic]

It's fine but there is that one client "Incognito" that a reputable player is selling here on mcm. He has tons of vouches from this. I think there should be a seperate section for hacked clients and everytime a user wants to sell it there should be 1 or 2 staff members who get the download without having to buy it. When they have this download they can scan it but it has to be someone who knows how to find rats / virus stuff in hacked clients. If that was possible to do, we should do that so we can also keep it and no ones account gets stolen.

Seems an awful lot of work to cheat in game, added the staff members themselves could lose accounts under their noses.

 

[Physic]

Use accounts from public alt lists, and the staff can tell if it is with a program called Eclipse I think.

Why be put through having to use public alts at all times when you could just ban it?[DOUBLEPOST=1455154475,1455154417][/DOUBLEPOST]

Physic You know that you're ratted if all your accounts get hijacked. why the hell would anybody rat you without hacking your accounts? that only happens if you are being a victim of a botnet. even then, you can tell if you are being used in a botnet (if the botnet is active frequently).

anyways, im done talking about this because there is clearly no way to convince either side. you arent going to convince me and im not going to convince you. enjoy being biased? no hard feelings. have a good day

It's not all about accounts, pure data/sensitive details is enough to ruin someone's life.