Do not deal with this user! (WARNING FOR EVERYONE)

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Hi, I already made a scam report, but here is the issue that went down. I was simply just a middle man in all of this, and the only person who is losing right now is myself. I am currentl 367$ in the negatives on my own paypal. I planned to release my server today, however can no longer pay for the trailer/youtubers until this issue is resolved. Here is the story:


I had done a middle man deal for Instill as well as Ember .

Creeper and Instill were trading 485$ Paypal for 450$ BTC. I was simply a middle man for this all. Instill sent me the 485$ PayPal, I held that money while Creeper had send Instill the 450$ BTC. Instill got the BTC, and I had then send Creeper the 485$ PayPal. A week goes by, and Instill charges back the 485$ on me as I was simply the middle man. Now, the issue here is that Instill had charged back saying it was an unauthorized payment, however it clearly was. I am not worried about the money as I know that I will get it back once paypal checks up on it, and realized that it was indeed authorized. The issue here is, I planned to release today, and pay all my youtubers I have for my server. I am not 400+ in the negative, and lost 100$ of my own money I had in my paypal as it is all on hold now. Also, me and Creeper have been trying to message Instill, however he is not answering any of us. The deal had happened on discord, and I had left that group chat as everything went very very well in there. There was no suspicions. So, I have nothing in there. But, it was a very good deal and no one was worried. And, now out of the blue he charges back. I will show proof of my paypal balance and so on. Also, me and Creeper both messaged this guy, and he was last online TODAY at 12:50 AM. So, he is around and saw the message but is neglecting to answer it. Therefore, I feel this user needs banned.



I am simply warning you all to not deal with Instill
I was trying to do a nice thing, and help out here. But, ended up getting stuck with all the issues. Do not deal with this user, nor would I recommend doing a middle man deal that he is involved with. Simply just a warning. The scam report has already been made. But, sadly I can not release my server today as I had planned to. Now, I just wait for paypal to call Instill and idiot because he had authorized the purchase, and they will see that when they check to see what IP was used to make the payment. So, I am not to worried, however it just set me back almost a week.
 
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Wait. Are you kidding me? He's staff on so many servers.
Not even joking, I can show proof if you'd like to see.
 

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Oh crap man, that really sucks. I would love to join your server once it's released. IP?
 

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Oh crap man, that really sucks. I would love to join your server once it's released. IP?
Play.LoyalMC.com

We are off whitelist, as I am just letting people join if they find our IP and try things out. Let me know of bugs etc, if any. But, I planned to do a huge launch with around 5 youtubers and a streamer today. As well as run some Project wonderful ads, and get a slot. But, we all see where that is going xD
 

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This is why I don't middleman anymore...

Best of luck getting your money back, I feel really bad for you and if there is any way I can help PM me. :)
 

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This is why I don't middleman anymore...

Best of luck getting your money back, I feel really bad for you and if there is any way I can help PM me. :)
Yea, I typically do not do over 150$, and I have done around 15 or so middle man deals, and I do not even charge people for it, I do it all for free. And, this is the first one that did not end up working out.


And, thanks :)
Not sure there is anything you can do however.
 
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that sucks man I recommend using another paypal as a market one instead of a main so this wont happen
I thought of that, but would I be able to do these kinda mm deals for people, and not get limited?
 

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This sort of shit is why I don't middleman. When you middleman you're basically taking on the risks of BOTH users. Either one of them could fuck you over and walk away safe.
 
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