Enable Agree & Disagree rating in Scam Reports

[avsterbone]

Some people make some really good points & others make really bad ones. I think it would be a good idea if people could vote Agree & Disagree on scam reports.

 

[Jackson]

This used to be here but don't know where it went. It was very helpful in the past. +1

 

[Devon]

This would be a good idea if when M6Gaming was approving posts, he didn't approve the ones that say the same exact thing as the post before them. Obviously you can't see what other people are saying because of the awaiting approval thing so the ones that are duplicates he shouldn't approve, and the agree rating would be used then.

 

[Ivain]

what purpose would this serve, beyond boosting people's ratings?
I know it'd be satisfying to agree or disagree, but it would add an element of public opinion that honestly is not needed to be added to scam reports. Scam reports are about the scammer and the scammed. some of us like to make contributions, but unless we are involved in the scam report or find a flaw in the evidence provided by either side, it really is not significant.

Nor would rating agree or disagree be relevant. Our public opinions do not change who is guilty and who is not.

 

[Ivain]

He can make it like in the suggestions section. Make ratings not count for your rep.

still don't see the practical use. Only thing it would achieve is allow us the satisfaction of cracking down on whoever we disagree with.[DOUBLEPOST=1464960302][/DOUBLEPOST]since you obviously disagree, please enlighten me to the practical use of this addition. What would it change in how scam reports are handled, and how would that change have a positive impact on the scam reports section as a whole?

 

[Cold]

what purpose would this serve, beyond boosting people's ratings?
I know it'd be satisfying to agree or disagree, but it would add an element of public opinion that honestly is not needed to be added to scam reports. Scam reports are about the scammer and the scammed. some of us like to make contributions, but unless we are involved in the scam report or find a flaw in the evidence provided by either side, it really is not significant.

Nor would rating agree or disagree be relevant. Our public opinions do not change who is guilty and who is not.

I completely agree with this. Adding agree and disagree ratings may be nice but the publics opinion is not actually useful. For example if someone were to open a Scam Report on a poor innocent bloke and there were to be many agree ratings siding with the other person, it may be slightly be "unfair" and MAY actually damage the bloke of proving his innocence.

 

[Ivain]

two disagree ratings on my argument and still no practical reason why this should be added... Not looking good for the suggestion, eh?

PS: staff hardly cares for the amount of agrees you get. They care more for the reasoning behind it. Which, btw, is another argument against this very suggestion. If a weak one, by itself.

 

[avsterbone]

Not looking good for the suggestion, eh?

You're the only who has voted disagree...

In the real world we have Jury's who decide if the accused is innocent or guilty. Think of the MCM community as the Jury and M6 as the judge. Only difference is M6 can determine the verdict either way regardless of the Jury's opinion. Most cases are fairly basic and don't require much thought. However, there are scam reports with pages or responses, tons of posts and a lot of information. That is when this would be useful.

 

[Ivain]

You're the only who has voted disagree...

In the real world we have Jury's who decide if the accused is innocent or guilty. Think of the MCM community as the Jury and M6 as the judge. Only difference is M6 can determine the verdict either way regardless of the Jury's opinion. Most cases are fairly basic and don't require much thought. However, there are scam reports with pages or responses, tons of posts and a lot of information. That is when this would be useful.

Unfortunately, this is not the real world. Nor should scam reports be voted on. That would make it a battle of popularity.
A jury in the real world is selected from peers that are not associated with the person on trial in any way. In a society as small as this, that is nearly impossible.
Not to mention it would require selection of people that are not associated. Which would not be done by implementing this suggestion, as that would simply open the sluice gates to those of us that have nothing better to do than hang around on this site playing community police, myself included. The rest of the community cannot be bothered to add disagree ratings.

The rating system is not an effective form of voting. It does not take an unbiased sample of the community. It takes a sample from those of us that are directly interested in the relevant suggestion. Most members of this website do not go from suggestion to suggestion to rate disagree on those they disagree with.

Ratings would be a legitimate form of voting if every member of the community had their attention drawn to the issue, and was presented with the relevant information (aka this thread). Since I don't see any of us sending a message to the entire community, I don't see the


oh, and said 'real world' consists only of the US, as far as I know. In Europe we have no such thing as trial by jury.

That said, I do commend you for at least attempting to come up with a strong argument. It sets you apart from the actual morons that just throw suggestion after suggestion on here, none of which make sense. I feared this was another case of that when I got disagrees but no reasoning. Seems I finally poked the hornet's nest enough to get a reaction, which is a relief. Regardless of the outcome, at least it means there's still people that have brains left on this website.

 

[Ajdin]

PS: staff hardly cares for the amount of agrees you get. They care more for the reasoning behind it. Which, btw, is another argument against this very suggestion. If a weak one, by itself.

This is very correct. I never look at agree & disagree ratings in this section. I only look at the actual posts which contain words and other useful information.

As for the suggestion: I feel like this might influence M6Gaming's decision alot. M6Gaming is supposed to be unbaised and neutral, and when the entire community is voting something, he'll feel pressured for making the wrong call.
I feel like popularity will also have a big impact on this. People might just disagree with the OP if they had a single succesful deal with the person being accused. Does making a single deal exempt him from scamming? No.

 

[avsterbone]

M6Gaming what is your opinion on this?

 

[M6Gaming]

M6Gaming what is your opinion on this?

This is a feature that isn't needed,

Most of the reasons have already been stated which I agree with.

 

[avsterbone]

This is a feature that isn't needed,

Most of the reasons have already been stated which I agree with.

Fair Enough. Now thinking about it I think more bad would come out of this than good.

- OP Requesting thread be moved to "Declined Suggestions" Section.

 

[Sloth]

If this were ever to be accepted, I'd hate to have a third type of agree rating. Smh....