Forcing people to pay F&F should be bannable

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I personally think PayPal has a great system which is you can pay G&S if you are buying a good or service, and if you are scammed, you can chargeback. Something that bothers me is I see everyone forcing buyers to pay F&F. Unless you are a friend or family of the seller, that is against PayPal TOS and if you are legit, you should be fully equipt to defend against a chargeback if it comes up. This is the cause of 90% of the scams on MCM.

I think that forcing sellers to accept G&S (they would be allowed to ask for extra money for fees) would either: make dealing better for the buyer (because fewer scams would pass as the buyer would chargeback), or it would lead the MCM community away from PayPal and to another payment app/site (which would honestly be good too because PayPal is ass).

If you do use a agree/disagree reaction, I would love to hear your reasoning.

Edit: Argue your hearts out but this is not going to happen. Everyone is selfish and it is buyers vs sellers at this point no one gives a shit about what's right they want what's best for them (I can't blame them).
 
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I mean, find someone else to buy from then? It's not a must from your part either to buy from us.
 

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No one forces me to pay F&F.

If someone is from the UK and because I am from the UK no one pays FEE's
 

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people who pay through f and f and get scammed are stupid.
 

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Woah, who do you buy from? :unsure:

Like 98% ask for F&F.

1,9% Ask for BTC only.

0,1% lets you pay in G&S

I mean no one forces me I choose todo it.
 

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I mean, find someone else to buy from then? It's not a must from your part either to buy from us.
Say you're buying an OG though, that you really want it and obviously no one has it but you, but the seller wont accept G&S and forces you to pay F&F for it, it would be hard for me to pass this opportunity to buy my "dream account"
Same thing for a service, say there is a guy who can do exactly what you want, and is extremely good at what he does and fits your budget, but forces you to pay F&F but you can't.

No one forces me to pay F&F.
This is actually happening to me every time I want to buy an account, they wont accept G&S from me, meaning I cannot buy the account because F&F is not a thing in my region. Even with mean Ken it was like this when I bought McDonalds, he wouldn't let me pay G&S so I had to get twinightcreep0 to transfer the money to him.

I totally agree with this suggestion, and honestly there's no reason to accept F&F only, you can still easily chargeback the money by quickly calling paypal, or possibly sending them an email, and there are still fees for the buyer, nothing changes except for the fact that the buyer is the one paying for them.
No reason not to use G&S tbh.
 

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Say you're buying an OG though, that you really want it and obviously no one has it but you, but the seller wont accept G&S and forces you to pay F&F for it, it would be hard for me to pass this opportunity to buy my "dream account"
Same thing for a service, say there is a guy who can do exactly what you want, and is extremely good at what he does and fits your budget, but forces you to pay F&F but you can't.


This is actually happening to me every time I want to buy an account, they wont accept G&S from me, meaning I cannot buy the account because F&F is not a thing in my region. Even with mean Ken it was like this when I bought McDonalds, he wouldn't let me pay G&S so I had to get twinightcreep0 to transfer the money to him.

I totally agree with this suggestion, and honestly there's no reason to accept F&F only, you can still easily chargeback the money by quickly calling paypal, or possibly sending them an email, and there are still fees for the buyer, nothing changes except for the fact that the buyer is the one paying for them.
No reason not to use G&S tbh.

There is 0 fee's when I send money F&F as long as they are in the UK. So why would I want this banned ?
 

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G&S works well only in cases where you have information about the buyer, it'll never work out on a site like this. If chargebacks were to be done via Buycraft, as an example, you have the buyer's ip, location, email, and more which makes disputing the chargeback viable. In cases like mc-market where you have absolutely no information about the buyer, you're more than likely to lose the chargeback as a seller because you cannot provide any legitimate proof against any claims the buyer makes.
 
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What a fucking ridiculous idea. Thanks to F&F I've saved myself thousands of dollars in possible chargebacks, and now you want to ban this demand of payment? I deal with anyone you know, if some sketchy person wants to pay in G&S, I shouldn't be facing warning points by asking for a more secure method of payment.

What am I gonna have to say in my bio now "Trustworthy with sending F&F" ??
 
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