help with starting development

[lyric]

I'm looking to start coding for spigot and I've watched a few of Caleb Curry's java tutorials but I can't find any good ways to start in the spigot coding, anyone have some GOOD cheap courses/tutorials?

 

[Quokka]

Big vouch for The Source Codes videos, excellent way for beginners to hop on board with the more advanced ideas.

 

[croissant222]

Don't waste money on courses, they only teach you so much. I found the best way to learn was to just watch various YouTube tutorials (try looking at The Source Codes ones - the channel has a huge range of different tutorial playlists). Just find someone you find interesting who starts from the absolute basics and you will be fine, once you get the hang of it you will pick it up pretty quickly

Dont like "The Source Codes" for a number of reasons, first off he sounds so bland and boring.

Additionally i checked out one of his videos "Discord.JS Bot Development - Ping & Say Command - Episode 02", the code was honestly terrible.

Hes teaching some really bad practices like

The "const args = ..." and "msg.edit(...)" lines are really ugly, maybe even confusing, should be split up

The prefix for the bot should not be defined in this call back function

He should really be using some kind of router and then adding middleware to only match messages starting with the prefix and excluding the bot, using a long chain of "if cmd == whatever" is laughably bad

Just looking through his other videos i see disgusting nesting everywhere

 

[cryy]

using youtube tutorials over docs with your knowledge of the language is very discouraged

• you are diving face first into a language and a library you have never seen before
  
• you are not learning anything but how to press ctrl c and ctrl v
• your freedom is restricted and dependent on youtube tutorials, you wont be able to create anything properly yourself
• you are using someone else's coding style and practices instead of creating your own environment you are comfortable with

take on courses from official sources like codecademy or teach yourself with docs. for example, microsoft documented the entirety of c#, .net core & .net fx which is enough to get you started.

 

[croissant222]

using youtube tutorials over docs with your knowledge of the language is very discouraged

• you are diving face first into a language and a library you have never seen before
  
• you are not learning anything but how to press ctrl c and ctrl v
• your freedom is restricted and dependent on youtube tutorials, you wont be able to create anything properly yourself
• you are using someone else's coding style and practices instead of creating your own environment you are comfortable with

take on courses from official sources like codecademy or teach yourself with docs. for example, microsoft documented the entirety of c#, .net core & .net fx which is enough to get you started.

"you are using someone else's coding style and practices instead of creating your own environment you are comfortable with"
You probably want to be following the official coding style of the language (and or library) youre using (or whatever the generally accepted one is like thelinux kernel coding style for C)

 

[FiveDollarCheats]

I would firstly recommend some basic Java and OOP videos, just learning the syntax of Java in general.

If you are looking for some more intermediate concepts, I would recommend watching Imtiaz Ahmad.

Anything else you should really learn by yourself.