How much would an Arcane/Faithful Copycat core cost me?

[12121341]

Thank you

 

[Ghast]

~5000$

 

[12121341]

You won't be able to afford.

Trust me I will. How much?[DOUBLEPOST=1504629693][/DOUBLEPOST]

~5000$

This is a serious price? Hmm

 

[Ghast]

Trust me I will. How much?[DOUBLEPOST=1504629693][/DOUBLEPOST]
This is a serious price? Hmm

Serious price. Maybe more.

 

[Nerm]

Thank you

If you're expecting it to handle around 1200 players like Arcane does but they were all at spawn not actually sending payloads, and having all the unique and exclusive features such as the Anti Phase built into the actual core and a ton of small features then it'd definitely cost you something over $3,500 - $4,500. Mat is suitable for this position and is trusted for this job.

 

[Kuzni]

Ill do it for $1000

Sorry but you can't compete against Mat at this price and skill range, it's worth paying the extra $400 for Mat's service

 

[kampai]

If you're expecting it to handle around 1200 players like Arcane does but they were all at spawn not actually sending payloads, and having all the unique and exclusive features such as the Anti Phase built into the actual core and a ton of small features then it'd definitely cost you something over $3,500 - $4,500. Mat is suitable for this position and is trusted for this job.

I'm pretty sure he's just asking for something that looks like Arcane/Faithful with some of the same features. I don't really understand why this would be 3x the amount of a regular custom core since I'm 90% sure if he asked the same developers who are saying "$3000 - $5000" and said what he wanted the core to look like it but didn't mention faithful or arcane's name it would instantly turn to $300.

If he's asking for faithful and arcane performance that would be a different story, but it isn't impossible for many developers. In my experience you can see which classes take up the most resources and which are causing memory leaks, which I'm sure arcane does so their core is most likely improved overtime, which would be nearly impossible for someone to make a near flawless core without things needed to be improved.

That being said unless you want to hold 1200+ players and unless you want a shit ton of features, it's a normal core with small additional features and if you want it to look like faithful/arcane, I would personally take this for $250 - $300+.

Now before some developers say "That many hours of work for only $300?? ", this MY OPINION on what I think it's worth, which shouldn't concern you that badly. As I said before unless he's asking for performance and a LOT of small featur, this is no more then a custom core that looks like Arcane and Fatihful

 

[kampai]

Thats pretty true but if you're looking for that type of core to hold 1000+ You're not going to spend 300 USD more like 750 - 1000 Almost

Yeah but saying a core that could hold "750 - 1000" players are really subjective. It all comes down to coding practices and how you do things as a developer. If you change arcane's server specs to just an AMD Phenomon 1 thread processor and 1GB do you think it would hold 1K players?

As I said before I'm pretty sure it's just good practices and a developer that know how java reads machine code, how memory is stored and the difference between O(1) and O(N). However, it mainly depends on how developers cache, store data, handle data and save data while keeping the server load low.

Such, you don't know what this person is going to put the plugin on so to give him a plugin saying it could hold 1K+ and then he puts it on a shitter server and it CANT hold 1K players well..

 

[Kuzni]

I'm pretty sure he's just asking for something that looks like Arcane/Faithful with some of the same features. I don't really understand why this would be 3x the amount of a regular custom core since I'm 90% sure if he asked the same developers who are saying "$3000 - $5000" and said what he wanted the core to look like it but didn't mention faithful or arcane's name it would instantly turn to $300.

If he's asking for faithful and arcane performance that would be a different story, but it isn't impossible for many developers. In my experience you can see which classes take up the most resources and which are causing memory leaks, which I'm sure arcane does so their core is most likely improved overtime, which would be nearly impossible for someone to make a near flawless core without things needed to be improved.

That being said unless you want to hold 1200+ players and unless you want a shit ton of features, it's a normal core with small additional features and if you want it to look like faithful/arcane, I would personally take this for $250 - $300+.

Now before some developers say "That many hours of work for only $300?? ", this MY OPINION on what I think it's worth, which shouldn't concern you that badly. As I said before unless he's asking for performance and a LOT of small featur, this is no more then a custom core that looks like Arcane and Fatihful

So basically you want to grab iHCF, make it look like Faithful and sell it for $300?

 

[kampai]

So basically you want to grab iHCF, make it look like Faithful and sell it for $300?

lol this is the problem with the forums. I've literally made tutorials showing me code, I've posted open source things, and every developer things the next developers skids for no reason?? You don't even know me, never seen my work and I've worked with multiple clients and never had one problem.

I wouldn't even skid simply because of the fact that I don't like to look at other people's code. I do things differently then a lot of developers and I'm not going to copy-paste 10k lines of static abuse and procedural coding mixed with object-oriented coding lol

 

[Kuzni]

lol this is the problem with the forums. I've literally made tutorials showing me code, I've posted open source things, and every developer things the next developers skids for no reason?? You don't even know me, never seen my work and I've worked with multiple clients and never had one problem.

I wouldn't even skid simply because of the fact that I don't like to look at other people's code. I do things differently then a lot of developers and I'm not going to copy-paste 10k lines of static abuse and procedural coding mixed with object-oriented coding lol

You missed the point and really went all out on this.

I didn't directly suggest you, as you never offered making the core.

The idea you suggested was that someone just makes a core look like Faithful.

 

[kampai]

You missed the point and really went all out on this.

I didn't directly suggest you, as you never offered making the core.

The idea you suggested was that someone just makes a core look like Faithful.

I'm sorry, it's just 90% of the people of the forums thing everyone skids, while a lot of them do. Sorry for the misunderstanding, I've just seen people doing it on every other post that has to do with HCF cores and such

 

[Ambrosia]

You won't be able to afford.

Poor 12 year old.

Eric Mat

Don't forget Ammar T.

Most likely $5k for the core.[DOUBLEPOST=1504644410][/DOUBLEPOST]

I'm pretty sure he's just asking for something that looks like Arcane/Faithful with some of the same features. I don't really understand why this would be 3x the amount of a regular custom core since I'm 90% sure if he asked the same developers who are saying "$3000 - $5000" and said what he wanted the core to look like it but didn't mention faithful or arcane's name it would instantly turn to $300.

If he's asking for faithful and arcane performance that would be a different story, but it isn't impossible for many developers. In my experience you can see which classes take up the most resources and which are causing memory leaks, which I'm sure arcane does so their core is most likely improved overtime, which would be nearly impossible for someone to make a near flawless core without things needed to be improved.

That being said unless you want to hold 1200+ players and unless you want a shit ton of features, it's a normal core with small additional features and if you want it to look like faithful/arcane, I would personally take this for $250 - $300+.

Now before some developers say "That many hours of work for only $300?? ", this MY OPINION on what I think it's worth, which shouldn't concern you that badly. As I said before unless he's asking for performance and a LOT of small featur, this is no more then a custom core that looks like Arcane and Fatihful

If he wants a custom core, made from scratch. Let's think, if the developer works 20 hours a week on this plugin and they do it for 3~ weeks that's 60 hours. 300/60 = $5/per hour.[DOUBLEPOST=1504644660][/DOUBLEPOST]How's it funny, you do it for me, please. 300$ for a custom core, thanks.

 

[kampai]

Poor 12 year old.


Don't forget Ammar T.

Most likely $5k for the core.[DOUBLEPOST=1504644410][/DOUBLEPOST]
If he wants a custom core, made from scratch. Let's think, if the developer works 20 hours a week on this plugin and they do it for 3~ weeks that's 60 hours. 300/60 = $5/per hour.

I don't think of freelancing as an hour to hour job, unless the client wants to pay for the hour to hour job. I usually don't make clients pay based on the time it took me to make the plugin (ex: you pay me $10/h and I work 1000 hours!), I pay based on what I feel my time is worth, and their budget. There are many developers in this community and I personally have yet to prove I'm an experienced one, or at least not intermediate. I would like to think this, as I have been working on the bukkit api or around 5 years now, and honestly there's really little for me to learn in java (this is not my ego). Setting that aside since I'm a NOT well known developer, and since I do have a lot of free time I usually based on what I feel my time is worth. Weather it be $2/h or $5/h.[DOUBLEPOST=1504644922][/DOUBLEPOST]

Poor 12 year old.


Don't forget Ammar T.

Most likely $5k for the core.[DOUBLEPOST=1504644410][/DOUBLEPOST]
If he wants a custom core, made from scratch. Let's think, if the developer works 20 hours a week on this plugin and they do it for 3~ weeks that's 60 hours. 300/60 = $5/per hour.[DOUBLEPOST=1504644660][/DOUBLEPOST]How's it funny, you do it for me, please. 300$ for a custom core, thanks.

Sure contact me on discord and I'll make you a $300 core. (kam#3252)