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its a scam.
I find it funny how he asked you 3 times for your budget and got the same response and then did it again for the 4th time. What would possibly have changed the 4th time?I came in with a very open budget, though communication was extremely ineffective and I was driven away by the overall lack of any order of operation. The complete diversion from a systematic approach to the interaction just does not make me want to put this kind of money towards an advertisement.
The simple request for a comprehensive list of YouTubers which OP works with should have been met with... well, a comprehensive list of YouTubers which OP works with, and from there I would be able to decide how much I felt was appropriate to spend.
No interaction should immediately focus so heavily on a budget when the client doesn't know what they are receiving, what it does is give OP an idea of how they are going to customate the price towards the client which makes the client feel as though they aren't going to be receiving equal treatment as people with a lower budget.
Take this as constructive criticism, OP. You need a system. When we were talking, I felt like I was at a garage sale.
Below I have linked the conversation between OP and I.
TwoBit
How can I help
rida
rida
Hey there, was wondering what YouTubers you had available for advertisements?
TwoBit
Tons lol
What are you trying to promote
rida
I'm off soon
rida
Could you provide a comprehensive list?
In order to advertise a browser game.
TwoBit
Ooo you want to advertise a browser game?
That's great.
What's you're budget and game link
Let me know quick if possible
I could quickly transfer you if I know those details. rida
rida
https://rida.dev/ I have no budget.
TwoBit
Why don't you have a budget? I can't help you out at all haha
I need a budget to get started for ya
rida
Well, once I see who I'm advertising with I can decide a proper range.
TwoBit
And link you people who would be interested
rida
I'll pay whatever it's worth.
TwoBit
Would you pay 5k.
For a youtuber
rida
If I can evaluate, and consider it a good investment.
TwoBit
10k
rida
If I can evaluate, and consider it a good investment.
TwoBit
20k
rida
I can't take you seriously..
TwoBit
I'm being dead ass right niw
Now
I'm tired it's late
I need to know these things
rida
I'm saying that I will pay as much as I believe it's worth, but you haven't shown me a thing yet.
TwoBit
I'm trying to figure out you're budget
rida
Whether I pay $20, or $20000... it all depends on who I'm advertising with.
TwoBit
What's ur timezone
rida
Mountain Standard, though i'm growing impatient.
I'd like a list of people, if you don't mind.
I wrote a game, but I'm not really here to play them.
TwoBit
We can get that for you soon, the management is currently asleep.
rida
Who are you a representative of?
TwoBit
You want youtubers who will advertise you're game right
Last question.
rida
Yes, we covered that when we opened our conversation.
TwoBit
Great
Thank you for you're patience, I assure you you will not regret contacting us.
We currently have a lot of clients but will put you on our priority list.
How much of a player base do you have already?
[...]
rida
Honestly, I was hoping for a more systematic approach to this.
You clearly had no understanding of what I meant, you must be misunderstanding this thread. I told you we offered youtubers and would need to know more about you're game, budget and what type of youtubers you were looking for. You were very hard to talk too. There was no way that I could help you because in order to start looking for youtubers (we have thousands) we need a price range to look at and contact some youtubers.[DOUBLEPOST=1561212168][/DOUBLEPOST]I came in with a very open budget, though communication was extremely ineffective and I was driven away by the overall lack of any order of operation. The complete diversion from a systematic approach to the interaction just does not make me want to put this kind of money towards an advertisement.
The simple request for a comprehensive list of YouTubers which OP works with should have been met with... well, a comprehensive list of YouTubers which OP works with, and from there I would be able to decide how much I felt was appropriate to spend.
No interaction should immediately focus so heavily on a budget when the client doesn't know what they are receiving, what it does is give OP an idea of how they are going to customate the price towards the client which makes the client feel as though they aren't going to be receiving equal treatment as people with a lower budget.
Take this as constructive criticism, OP. You need a system. When we were talking, I felt like I was at a garage sale.
Below I have linked the conversation between OP and I.
TwoBit
How can I help
rida
rida
Hey there, was wondering what YouTubers you had available for advertisements?
TwoBit
Tons lol
What are you trying to promote
rida
I'm off soon
rida
Could you provide a comprehensive list?
In order to advertise a browser game.
TwoBit
Ooo you want to advertise a browser game?
That's great.
What's you're budget and game link
Let me know quick if possible
I could quickly transfer you if I know those details. rida
rida
https://rida.dev/ I have no budget.
TwoBit
Why don't you have a budget? I can't help you out at all haha
I need a budget to get started for ya
rida
Well, once I see who I'm advertising with I can decide a proper range.
TwoBit
And link you people who would be interested
rida
I'll pay whatever it's worth.
TwoBit
Would you pay 5k.
For a youtuber
rida
If I can evaluate, and consider it a good investment.
TwoBit
10k
rida
If I can evaluate, and consider it a good investment.
TwoBit
20k
rida
I can't take you seriously..
TwoBit
I'm being dead ass right niw
Now
I'm tired it's late
I need to know these things
rida
I'm saying that I will pay as much as I believe it's worth, but you haven't shown me a thing yet.
TwoBit
I'm trying to figure out you're budget
rida
Whether I pay $20, or $20000... it all depends on who I'm advertising with.
TwoBit
What's ur timezone
rida
Mountain Standard, though i'm growing impatient.
I'd like a list of people, if you don't mind.
I wrote a game, but I'm not really here to play them.
TwoBit
We can get that for you soon, the management is currently asleep.
rida
Who are you a representative of?
TwoBit
You want youtubers who will advertise you're game right
Last question.
rida
Yes, we covered that when we opened our conversation.
TwoBit
Great
Thank you for you're patience, I assure you you will not regret contacting us.
We currently have a lot of clients but will put you on our priority list.
How much of a player base do you have already?
[...]
rida
Honestly, I was hoping for a more systematic approach to this.
I appreciate you're opinion : )This mans a joke.
We have thousands of youtubers. There's no way im listing all of them. If I received a budget i could work around that and see youtubers who could easily do the advertising.[DOUBLEPOST=1561294953][/DOUBLEPOST]um i don't know if this thread is a joke but if people are looking for youtubers and they are asking who the youtuber is you should be able to provide them with who they are not with "whats your budget" the man clearly said in his way that depending on the youtuber his budget will increase/decrease rida just use Talensi he has a great connections with multiple youtubers who could advertise for you.
P.s: sorry if i am trashing your thread but this is a joke.
Thank you. It was just very hard to do something like this because most people give me a budget that I can help them with.Guys I believe, that TwoBit nor any of you are wrong, TwoBit here was just trying to get a budget so he could work with it, like why get a $20000 youtuber when your budget is $10, now TwoBit is a little at fault for not just getting the guy a list of youtubers that range from a budget of $20/video - $2000/video - $20000/video, then he could choose a good choice. For long-term he probably wouldve chose $20/video and $2000/video so that he could get more than one video done, but it is up to him to focus on long-term and short-term goals, anyways they both were at fault for not complying with each other, end of discussion, TwoBitYT is a great advertising manager, and I know that for a fact.
