iPhone or Android?

[User]

I'm a former Genius at Apple, and I'll let you know why I believe Apple > Android:

1. The ecosystem — The main argument against Apple is that it's an ecosystem, and therefore bad. I strongly disagree. Because it's an ecosystem, all your Apple products are tied together through their operating systems. My Apple products consist of an iPhone X, an Apple Watch Series 4, AirPods, Beats Solo3 Wireless, Powerbeats Pro, HomePod, Apple TV, and a MacBook Pro 15" (2017), as well as Apple Music, News+, and even the Apple Card. I've got almost everything I need for my lifestyle wound together through an ecosystem. Android doesn't have this, and even Android labeled accessories, such as Google's WearOS, work and are compatible with my iPhone. Android is messy because it's open to all sorts of companies, each taking their own slice of the cake and decorating it differently by cutting parts and enhancing others.
2. Privacy & Safety — Apple is the only major tech corporation that doesn't track your data, monitor it, or even look at it. Because of this, I am comfortable browsing Safari, using Apple Card, saving my passwords and using iCloud because their 2FA is the best I've seen. Their Emergency SOS feature is amazing, and fall detection + EKG + decibel meter to protect me makes me feel safe when I'm out and about. Actually, when I was struck by a car and fell off my bike, my watch detected it and activated Emergency SOS to call 911 and alert my emergency contacts I was in danger. More information and stories here. Apple also keeps me more secure from malware and viruses.
3. Apple Care (Plus) and Customer Support — Apple's customer support is probably the best I've ever had with a major company. Being able to book an appointment, go in that day, and have your problem looked at and resolved is astonishing, and more companies can learn from this. To be fair, I've never seen or gone to a Samsung/Google/OnePlus/etc. storefront, so I don't know if these companies even have physical shops or if they just resell through Data carriers, but Apple is the best afaik. I also enjoy AppleCare+ protecting my devices in the event anything ever happens to them, even extending the warranty to Water Damage. And starting at $6/mo? That's great.

Arguments in this thread and my takes on them -


Your battery is most likely constantly low either because of (a) your phone being an old edition; or (b) there is an error with the battery functionality in your phone, which AppleCare+ covers for $6/mo plus additional features. New phones being too much isn't anything new and every company is doing this, especially Samsung; Apple's biggest Android competitor.


Look, sure $999 is ridiculous for a computer stand, but it's market is towards people who already overpay for items. That's the Apple marketplace. Buying from second-hand stores and online marketplaces for this stuff is common. Stop looking at Apple as a business that markets things based on what their audience wants, it was the world's first trillion-dollar company for Christ's sake. Secondly, not having a headphone jack isn't a big deal. Better speakers is fine for me, because Bluetooth > Wired headphones anyday. Third, the Mac isn't garbage. It might not be what you are looking for, but it's good for what it's meant to be. Apple isn't going to cater a computer specially for you or your needs, it's targeted at an audience, and that audience buys. BootCamp lets me connect to Windows for free and get full access to switch between MacOS and Windows 10 whenever I need to.

Anywho, Apple Gang 4 Lyfe bb

Lemme know your thoughts below, epic MC-Market members.

1. We shouldn't have to jump through hoops to not go broke buying your $1,000 stand. "We don't sell things that people want, we sell things that people will buy anyways because we're the Supreme of electronics" Thanks for proving my point.
2. It's made into a bigger deal because now you have to use dongle. And no one wants to buy a dongle. Or even say the word dongle.
3. No, mac is garbage. My mom owns a mac and she agrees. I've had friends with Macs, they agree. Extended family too. No one I know who's ever had a mac has liked it, and these are people that have used Apple for 4+ years. There's a reason Mac sales are going to crap; because they are crap.

P.S, in just 5 sentences, you switched from "Stop looking at Apple as a business that markets things based on what their audience wants" to "Apple isn't going to cater a computer specially for you or your needs, it's targeted at an audience, and that audience buys."

 

[Spoch]

if you've ever shared a selfie on the internet.
And use this type of face unlock, rip security.

iPhone X uses other types of sensors (Its not just a camera) - I would guess some other android phones have proper face unlock aswell.

 

[doodle]

1. We shouldn't have to jump through hoops to not go broke buying your $1,000 stand. "We don't sell things that people want, we sell things that people will buy anyways because we're the Supreme of electronics" Thanks for proving my point.
2. It's made into a bigger deal because now you have to use dongle. And no one wants to buy a dongle. Or even say the word dongle.
3. No, mac is garbage. My mom owns a mac and she agrees. I've had friends with Macs, they agree. Extended family too. No one I know who's ever had a mac has liked it, and these are people that have used Apple for 4+ years. There's a reason Mac sales are going to crap; because they are crap.

1.) Once again, to even use the pro stand, you need the $5,000 monitor, which isn't meant for you anyways because you don't need 6K because your profession isn't to develop professional films/animations/VFX/SFX/GFX work.
2.) Dongles are chargers regardless of the brand, and you don't have to use a dongle if you're intelligent and go wireless :tup:
3.) Mac sales aren't going to crap, actually, because they've been improved over the years just like every other company does with devices that suck. New Macs are great for the specific audience. I can safely guess your family didn't have updated Macs, they had old MacBook Airs and Pros from 2011 and 2015.

 

[Red]

Samsung is linux . Not android

Samsung has nothing to do with android...

Samsung uses linux

They've developed their own linux fork...

You’re thinking of Samsung’s Tizen OS, which they did indeed develop from the Linux Kernel. They’ve used it on some phones and I believe all their smart watches use it. However, they don’t now and have never used it for their mid-range or flagship phones. They use One Ui, which is just their unique skin on top of Android. So no, the Samsung phones that everyone is taking about in this thread are not running Linux.

Iphone, overpriced and low battery. Worst of all, I am using it only because of the design.

The design? Really? In an era where every phone is gorgeous, that’s your reason for sticking with Apple? I don’t know about you guys, but I loved the new Aura Glow color that Samsung’s using for the Note 10. It’s bright and vibrant wonderful. I rock an iPhone, but in today’s market, design isn’t what’s keeping me there.

Depends, I didn't have to pay for mine, but I'm sure there might have been an update.

How did you get Bootcamp for free? Tell me because I want to create a Windows instal in an external SSD.

1.) Once again, to even use the pro stand, you need the $5,000 monitor, which isn't meant for you anyways because you don't need 6K because your profession isn't to develop professional films/animations/VFX/SFX/GFX work.

Not taking about the stand here, just the monitor, but damn if it’s not the most desirable monitor on Earth. Better than OLED specs and OLED level contrast at a resolution of 6K. I’m not gonna but it because I don’t have that kind of money to burn, but it’s what I’d want for my set-up. Just my preference though, since I tend to chose resolution and picture quality over refresh rate and input lag.

 

[doodle]

How did you get Bootcamp for free? Tell me because I want to create a Windows instal in an external SSD.

I have a lot of friends that work in the development field, they mailed me a big USB drive that activates BootCamp when plugged in.

 

[Red]

I have a lot of friends that work in the development field, they mailed me a big USB drive that activates BootCamp when plugged in.

Lucky! Guess I’ll just have to settle for buying a license.

 

[ItsNotMe]

I grew up on Apple so I’m a hardcore fanboy, I’ve never actually owned an Android I might try in the future though

 

[Gem]

if you've ever shared a selfie on the internet.
And use this type of face unlock, rip security.

its called dont let a ninja have your phone

 

[MarkElf]

Samsung just removed the headphone jack with the Note 10

And I'm glad they did. If you're still using a headphone jack then you're living in the past and are overdue on upgrade. The main advantage of one is if you want to carry around a proprietary pair if your wireless ones die and who even wants to do that? Dongles are also a thing, stick it to the end of your earbuds and suddenly you no longer need the jack to listen.

 

[Axp]

1.) Once again, to even use the pro stand, you need the $5,000 monitor, which isn't meant for you anyways because you don't need 6K because your profession isn't to develop professional films/animations/VFX/SFX/GFX work.
2.) Dongles are chargers regardless of the brand, and you don't have to use a dongle if you're intelligent and go wireless :tup:
3.) Mac sales aren't going to crap, actually, because they've been improved over the years just like every other company does with devices that suck. New Macs are great for the specific audience. I can safely guess your family didn't have updated Macs, they had old MacBook Airs and Pros from 2011 and 2015.

1.) The $999 monitor stand is optional. They have a $200 stand for a reason. The $5000 monitor is for pros, you wont be editing 6k nor viewing 6k for a reason :tup:.
2.) Dongles are dongles for a reason. They dongle and ding-a-ling around.
3.) Mac's cater to business' not daily users. So from a casual user Mac sales are going to shit since they dont have it at home anymore. People dont need 100 core cpus. A Mac is a Mac if you need it. The value of the Mac is there. They just isolated it to Pros. Like how they price jumped the 2060 SUPER so budget gamers use the 1660ti and variants.[DOUBLEPOST=1565524430][/DOUBLEPOST]

Android is used more but in more urban areas and countries such as the US and UK you tend to see more iPhone users. I personally could use either but I like using iPhone because most of my friends have iPhones, meaning I can do stuff like iMessage, AirDrop, and other stuff. I would not mind if someone took my iPhone 7 and gave me something like say an S10E

I live in the Philippines. Most people use Huwawei (lmao), Oppo, Xiaomi, and budget samsungs (a10, a20, a30.. m10, m20...) Android is marketed to low and middle income users. Thats why Samsung has less sales than apple with flagships. Android isnt marketed in high end. Android is superior in sales since not alot make 6 figures. Iphone is better when it comes to performance. Third parties also make more money with iOS since iOS users can spend more money unlike android bois.

 

[doodle]

1.) The $999 monitor stand is optional. They have a $200 stand for a reason. The $5000 monitor is for pros, you wont be editing 6k nor viewing 6k for a reason :tup:.
2.) Dongles are dongles for a reason. They dongle and ding-a-ling around.
3.) Mac's cater to business' not daily users. So from a casual user Mac sales are going to shit since they dont have it at home anymore. People dont need 100 core cpus. A Mac is a Mac if you need it. The value of the Mac is there. They just isolated it to Pros. Like how they price jumped the 2060 SUPER so budget gamers use the 1660ti and variants.[DOUBLEPOST=1565524430][/DOUBLEPOST]
I live in the Philippines. Most people use Huwawei (lmao), Oppo, Xiaomi, and budget samsungs (a10, a20, a30.. m10, m20...) Android is marketed to low and middle income users. Thats why Samsung has less sales than apple with flagships. Android isnt marketed in high end. Android is superior in sales since not alot make 6 figures. Iphone is better when it comes to performance. Third parties also make more money with iOS since iOS users can spend more money unlike android bois.

1.) I know? Lmao, thanks for backing up my point.
2.) That makes no sense, good job :tup:
3.) No, that's not their target audience. Their target audience are kids, specifically teenagers going into college, etc. as well as adults. It's meant for casual use, sure, but it isn't targeted towards gaming or PC specs like lots of Windows/Gaming PCs are. Mac targets their stuff at users of the Apple ecosystem, and chooses their audience well. Mac sales aren't going tp shit actually, iPhone sales are because of how good their old ones are, meaning people don't want to upgrade because they are already too satisfied.

4.) Android is not superior in sales because they are targeted at low/middle-income families; they make more sales because of how many brands use the open-ended Android OS that's public for all phone/tablet developers, unlike Apple, who keeps their OS and products to their own ecosystem and thus gets more sales through that ecosystem, instead of letting others profit off of them.

 

[Axp]

3.) No, that's not their target audience. Their target audience are kids, specifically teenagers going into college, etc. as well as adults. It's meant for casual use, sure, but it isn't targeted towards gaming or PC specs like lots of Windows/Gaming PCs are. Mac targets their stuff at users of the Apple ecosystem, and chooses their audience well. Mac sales aren't going tp shit actually, iPhone sales are because of how good their old ones are, meaning people don't want to upgrade because they are already too satisfied.

4.) Android is not superior in sales because they are targeted at low/middle-income families; they make more sales because of how many brands use the open-ended Android OS that's public for all phone/tablet developers, unlike Apple, who keeps their OS and products to their own ecosystem and thus gets more sales through that ecosystem, instead of letting others profit off of them.

3.) I was proving macs not macbooks. Books are for kids trying to learn.
4.) If it was only samsung and apple in phones. Samsung would sell more. Android would sell more in phones, but iOS would sell more in third-parties like paid apps, cases, etc..

 

[doodle]

3.) I was proving macs not macbooks. Books are for kids trying to learn.
4.) If it was only samsung and apple in phones. Samsung would sell more. Android would sell more in phones, but iOS would sell more in third-parties like paid apps, cases, etc..

3.) So you were talking about the old desktop computers? Nobody uses those anymore.
4.) I assume you have zero understanding about the subject. Samsung did not make Android, nor does it own it. Google does and would not allow Samsung to be the only seller on the Android market. And even if they were, yes, they would sell better in phones, because as I stated earlier, Apple's iPhone sales are declining because the previous models were too good, and people don't want to upgrade because they are already very satisfied with their current iPhones.

 

[Axp]

4.) I assume you have zero understanding about the subject. Samsung did not make Android, nor does it own it. Google does and would not allow Samsung to be the only seller on the Android market. And even if they were, yes, they would sell better in phones, because as I stated earlier, Apple's iPhone sales are declining because the previous models were too good, and people don't want to upgrade because they are already very satisfied with their current iPhones.

4.) Woudnt selling something too good, and stopping production haunt the company? I used Samsung as an example also as an exaggeration. Either way they are 2 markets that has some overlapping.

 

[doodle]

4.) Woudnt selling something too good, and stopping production haunt the company? I used Samsung as an example also as an exaggeration. Either way they are 2 markets that has some overlapping.

Lmao

 

[Axp]

Lmao

How to end a conversation 101

 

[doodle]

How to end a conversation 101

You just don't know anything on the subject, there's no point in talking with you.

 

[Axp]

You just don't know anything on the subject, there's no point in talking with you.

True. I suck at debating.