Lionmaker tweeted child porn, Drama alert

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I mean, it's pathetic to think that he would ruin his rep/income this easily. I bet it's hacked.
Even if he was hacked, how would he have gotten the child porn in the first place? The girl wouldn't just send it to a random
 

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Even if he was hacked, how would he have gotten the child porn in the first place? The girl wouldn't just send it to a random

Two possibilities there:

A) The whole thing is a hoax and PandaPaige or w/e is not even a real person, or was otherwise paid to do this. Whole thing was set up just to boost views/get money by that Drama Alert retard, or by a fan of his. Monty & I agree this is the most likely scenario as the whole thing just seems really suspicious and nonsensical.

B) He actually had this girl on Skype and she sent him nudes. His computer was ratted or something, and some hacker got access to his Skype + Twitter. Said hacker found this Skype conversation and came up with the idea of saying all this on Twitter and posting it publicly.


I don't know if he solicited the nudes or what, that part isn't really revealed. It's possible some girl just sent him nudes without him doing much convincing. Honestly speaking, from my perception of most males I would think that many of them would accept nudes offered to them even if it was by a 15 year old girl. 15 years old is past puberty and many males I imagine are attracted to girls around that age-range, even if they are way older than that.

Not to argue in favor of a child molester, but being into a 15 year old girl would make this guy an ephebophile, not pedophile, and those two things are very different in my book. Someone being sexually attracted to a post-pubescent female under the age of 18 and someone being sexually attracted to an eight year old are very different.

Maturity-wise, there definitely is a huge gap between someone that's 27 and someone that's 15, though, and obviously he is a fuckhead for taking advantage of her and accepting her pictures and I do believe he needs to go to jail if that's the case.

I just think it's a bit hypocritical for most of the community to be outraged by this when they'd probably accept nudes from a 15 year old girl too.

i wouldn't though lolz
 

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Two possibilities there:

A) The whole thing is a hoax and PandaPaige or w/e is not even a real person, or was otherwise paid to do this. Whole thing was set up just to boost views/get money by that Drama Alert retard, or by a fan of his. Monty & I agree this is the most likely scenario as the whole thing just seems really suspicious and nonsensical.

B) He actually had this girl on Skype and she sent him nudes. His computer was ratted or something, and some hacker got access to his Skype + Twitter. Said hacker found this Skype conversation and came up with the idea of saying all this on Twitter and posting it publicly.


I don't know if he solicited the nudes or what, that part isn't really revealed. It's possible some girl just sent him nudes without him doing much convincing. Honestly speaking, from my perception of most males I would think that many of them would accept nudes offered to them even if it was by a 15 year old girl. 15 years old is past puberty and many males I imagine are attracted to girls around that age-range, even if they are way older than that.

Not to argue in favor of a child molester, but being into a 15 year old girl would make this guy an ephebophile, not pedophile, and those two things are very different in my book. Someone being sexually attracted to a post-pubescent female under the age of 18 and someone being sexually attracted to an eight year old are very different.

Maturity-wise, there definitely is a huge gap between someone that's 27 and someone that's 15, though, and obviously he is a fuckhead for taking advantage of her and accepting her pictures and I do believe he needs to go to jail if that's the case.

I just think it's a bit hypocritical for most of the community to be outraged by this when they'd probably accept nudes from a 15 year old girl too.

i wouldn't though lolz
yes i think its a hoax and he got hacked ^_^
 

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A) The whole thing is a hoax and PandaPaige or w/e is not even a real person, or was otherwise paid to do this. Whole thing was set up just to boost views/get money by that Drama Alert retard, or by a fan of his. Monty & I agree this is the most likely scenario as the whole thing just seems really suspicious and nonsensical.
She has a channel with like 50,000 subs, so she has to be real though https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpYs9rTamzIvYcn-xJwlvSw could be hacked though
 

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The thing is legit. He was having a relationship with her. Follow his videos, look at how many times they spend time together in games. It's just. A hacker exposed them on his twitter account, he would've never wrote those things, but the relationship was legit.
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The thing is legit. He was having a relationship with her. Follow his videos, look at how many times they spend time together in games. It's just. A hacker exposed them on his twitter account, he would've never wrote those things, but the relationship was legit.

Alright, well in that case we can all agree that he's a disgusting shit but I do not think that anybody on the entire planet would ever knowingly publicly post nudes of an underage girl on the internet when their real-life identity is well-known and when they are such high-profile individuals. This is guaranteeing a one-way ticket to prison. Who would ever subject themselves to that?

I think it's clear he got hacked. Which at least means that he did not publicly post the picture of the girl, which to me is kind of the worst part of all of this because now that image is out there forever and anyone who wants it bad enough can find it. Which really sucks for this girl because now she has to wonder if all of her friends have seen her naked. I don't really think she should be ashamed at all of what she did, but considering the way our culture works she probably is, and having to face her parents and family and friends IRL with all of this would be awful. When it comes to their relationship-thing and the sending of the pictures in the first place, I agree that's bad, but it's not like he was having sex with her and directly molesting her, so it didn't really affect her IRL, whereas the posting of the picture publicly does.

So I think the worst villain here is whoever hacked him, because I really, really don't believe that anybody even close to being in their right mind would willingly subject themselves to going to prison, especially when they're a successful YouTuber making mountains of free cash.
 

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The thing is legit. He was having a relationship with her. Follow his videos, look at how many times they spend time together in games. It's just. A hacker exposed them on his twitter account, he would've never wrote those things, but the relationship was legit.
Exactly what I thought, but his computer probably got ratted or some shit, hackers put them up, and ruined his rep. If you look at his tweets and conversations, his language seems stilted, and unlike how a 27-year old would type. It's creepy that he would have a relationship with a 15-year old in the first place, but I strongly disbelieve that he would've blackened his rep and fucked his future up like that intentionally.
 

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no nara. the villain here is the person that was having a relationship with an underage girl, 12 years younger than him. what the hacker did was confirm the rumors. What he did was not right, leaking that photo out there, but that certainly proved a point.

If you don't want photos leaked, don't take the photos. Plain and simple. He requested the nudes. So he's to blame for all of this, not the guy that leaked it.

i won't defend a borderline pedo i just think the hacker is a dipshit too. leaking a nude pic of a 15 year old girl - or any age girl or even guy - to people online is never ok. i think both the hacker and the lion guy should go to jail.

in terms of the lion guy, idk. 16 is legal in a lot of places, so if this had happened a year later i dont think anyone would be calling him a pedo. the age difference is gross but celebrities and rich people date people much younger than them all the time. i can just imagine this girl throwing herself at lion to capitalize on his fame and grow her own youtube and i really really doubt many people here would turn down nudes from a 15 year old girl.

if he had sex with her it would be a different story
 

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12 year difference isn't a huge deal if she were 18 (16 in many states, and Canada). Honestly this doesn't phase me too much. The guy probably committed suicide. He's been silent since it broke. Keemstar is pretty trashy, if he was legitimately concerned about the well being of that Panda person he would contact authorities, not make a propaganda video about it. He's just exploiting the situation to make some YouTube $$$, and honestly, he could be breaking the law... I'm not sure... but real journalist, have confidentiality procedures and laws they have to follow when reporting on minors. That's why when you watch the news and there are negative news pieces about about minors they usually do not reveal their identity for the sake of the childs well being and safety.[DOUBLEPOST=1450774735,1450774344][/DOUBLEPOST]
in terms of the lion guy, idk. 16 is legal in a lot of places, so if this had happened a year later i dont think anyone would be calling him a pedo. the age difference is gross but celebrities and rich people date people much younger than them all the time. i can just imagine this girl throwing herself at lion to capitalize on his fame and grow her own youtube and i really really doubt many people here would turn down nudes from a 15 year old girl.

if he had sex with her it would be a different story

A large age difference really isn't that gross, so long as it's legal. Most people are fully developed by about 20/21, from then on it's a slow process of dying. Age is really but a number at that point, and you're as old as you want to be.

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.

I doubt they had sex. He's an obnoxious European YouTuber. I watched about 10 seconds of one of his videos, and I closed it because his voice was like nails on a chalkboard. They probably haven't even met.[DOUBLEPOST=1450775243][/DOUBLEPOST]This is the real crime here...
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