Make it impossible to add No refunds no matter what to your T.O.S

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Like yeah I have this in my t.o.s but if i see reasonable cause i give them a refund but some members are abusing this and using it to scam people for there services.
it’s bullshit and needs to be removed. if not removed then change it like “Refunds only allowed with reasonable cause”
 
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"reasonable" is opinionated, this is asking for a disaster.
better than taking someone’s money after doing jack shit and saying sorry my time is over peace


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I believe this has been suggested a few times before, and the main concern was the fact that it wouldn't be worth the time or effort for us to moderate users' Terms of Service.

Such terms are simply not enforced within scam reports when a user has failed to provide their end of the deal/arrangement, and I believe this is enough.
 

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Couldn’t agree more, happened to me tons
 

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I agree that those kind of TOS make no sense, the solution is simple though, don't deal with people with unreasonable TOS. If you do that, its just a matter of time before they stop using unreasonable TOS.
 

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I believe this has been suggested a few times before, and the main concern was the fact that it wouldn't be worth the time or effort for us to moderate users' Terms of Service.

Such terms are simply not enforced within scam reports when a user has failed to provide their end of the deal/arrangement, and I believe this is enough.
This can be checked when a scam report is opened.
 

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This is why you don’t buy from service teams
 

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If I remember correctly, “no refund” clauses aren’t always held within scam reports, especially when it’s evident where the original intent was of crooked nature and clearly a scam based on common perception.

However, past that I do not feel as if it’s in the site’s best interest to moderate user terms of service due to the time consumed and skills required to properly interpret them.
 
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If I remember correctly, “no refund” clauses aren’t always held within scam reports, especially when it’s evident where the original intent was of crooked nature and clearly a scam based on common perception.

However, past that I do not feel as if it’s in the site’s best interest to moderate user terms of service due to the time consumed and skills required to properly interpret them.
Then why is gavin still here
 

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Just like in the real world with contracts and terms of services, peoples terms of service on-site must be reasonable. We will not always enforce your terms of service, and in most cases "no refunds in any circumstances" isn't reasonable.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.
 
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