Make negative reputation expire in 12-16 months

[deletedusers]

Everyone has made a mistake in one way or another, and we all grow from it. Theres also many people that have negative reps on their profiles that have probably grown, and some perhaps that have not. The ones that don't will continue to have negative reputation on their profile throughout so it only benefits those who want to improve as people. Even if someone messed up 3 years ago that negative reputation in a way still defines them, when it shouldn't

I think this would be a motivating way for people to not get so angered and frustrated by the reputation system, as well as a way to motivate them to improve themselves. its such a strain on mental health as well because even a virtual score to identify your "reliability as a person" can be stressful. As its a marketplace to evaluate a user though to work with, its understandable to some extent. Having it permanent though causes an unnecessary strain for those trying to grow as people, because no matter what they do to improve as people, they may not even be the same person as last year. I think having negative reputation be temporary would be a great feature to implement.

Potential con : Some people want to see others past mistakes, full reputation and such

Rebuttal : Any unreliable person will be consistently getting negative reputation so that isn't an issue. This system is simply more forgiving to those who have changed and want to change

 

[moon10k]

incoming staff response: 'you should sort it out with the member if you'd like it removed'

 

[deletedusers]

incoming staff response: 'you should sort it out with the member if you'd like it removed'

some members hold grudges, some don't. An automated system is easier and healthier anyways

 

[moon10k]

some members hold grudges, some don't. An automated system is easier and healthier anyways

it could be a good idea, but don't expect any 'good' changes to the reputation system anytime soon.

 

[Atmazphere]

One hundred percent agree. Make it like it is in life, someone shouldn't judge you for what you did in the past - to a certain extent. Although, the downside of this is if it 'expires' does it get removed from your reputation completely? Some may argue that they want to see past pos/neg reputation points, which would be understandable if doing a large transaction.

 

[deletedusers]

One hundred percent agree. Make it like it is in life, someone shouldn't judge you for what you did in the past - to a certain extent. Although, the downside of this is if it 'expires' does it get removed from your reputation completely? Some may argue that they want to see past pos/neg reputation points, which would be understandable if doing a large transaction.

I think after 12-16 months though if they're overall not making any more reputation negatives then its not a huge detail. With big transactions you tend to look at scam reports and such. My idea is that it would get removed completely, because that timespan is a LONG time.

Its not like neg reps on here are something that are massive deals, like who neg reps someone for murder or worse? Nothing on this site 99.9% of the time is even that bad honestly. Most are just simple miscommunications, missed deadlines, and soforth. A years time or more gives PLENTY of time to improve upon these small(ish) things


the bigger stuff than that is what leads to bans/scam reports and that system is fine already

 

[Atmazphere]

I think after 12-16 months though if they're overall not making any more reputation negatives then its not a huge detail. With big transactions you tend to look at scam reports and such. My idea is that it would get removed completely, because that timespan is a LONG time.

Its not like neg reps on here are something that are massive deals, like who neg reps someone for murder or worse? Nothing on this site 99.9% of the time is even that bad honestly. Most are just simple miscommunications, missed deadlines, and soforth. A years time or more gives PLENTY of time to improve upon these small(ish) things


the bigger stuff than that is what leads to bans/scam reports and that system is fine already

Ah, I got you now, fully agree with the OP.

 

[Ambrosia]

Disagree with this so much. Literally, just apologize and talk to the person. If he holds a grudge find a way around the reputation and report it, there is always a way to get reputation removed if it's not valid or doesn't follow the rules. But if it does you most likely had a choice in that (ex. banning all members from a discord server that you didn't own would be a reputation that should stay with you forever). It's just like your criminal record, once you're of an adult age you can never get a serious crime off your record.

 

[deletedusers]

Disagree with this so much. Literally, just apologize and talk to the person. If he holds a grudge find a way around the reputation and report it, there is always a way to get reputation removed if it's not valid or doesn't follow the rules. But if it does you most likely had a choice in that (ex. banning all members from a discord server that you didn't own would be a reputation that should stay with you forever). It's just like your criminal record, once you're of an adult age you can never get a serious crime off your record.

I can see your perspective of this for sure, but what if someone was really toxic 3 years ago and then they had a moment of realization and became nice? The reputation would still have people think they were toxic to this day though because i doubt most will really take a second look at the date and take into account that people change

 

[Ambrosia]

I can see your perspective of this for sure, but what if someone was really toxic 3 years ago and then they had a moment of realization and became nice? The reputation would still have people think they were toxic to this day though because i doubt most will really take a second look at the date and take into account that people change

Then make a dispute and it'll most likely get removed if you can show the OP neg repper that you've changed

 

[Jayson]

If people can change for the better, they can also change for the worse. Why discriminate? To make one’s self look unpoportionally better?

 

[MasonX3]

Maybe a system to have good reputation outweigh the negative reputation? Just a thought, maybe that would allow those who actually have that negative reputation to keep it and those who keep gaining more positive reputation could have a chance to have that negative reputation removed? Just thinking out loud here.

 

[deletedusers]

If people can change for the better, they can also change for the worse. Why discriminate? To make yourself look unpoportionally better?

If they Change for the worst the reputation will clearly reflect that imo

 

[deletedusers]

I feel this would do the world of good if implemented, some users will -rep for the sake of it and the member is forever branded by the negative decisions.

I don't have an issue with negative reputation at all, the system makes sense 100%. The issue is that theres no chance for redemption for it if a negrepper has a vendetta or just doesnt like you, and now suddenly because of that you have a negative reputation that you will never get rid of. Its a really toxic and unnecessary branding

Nobody sees that, and nobody asks that. Nobodys going to look into the fine details, most will probably glance at first sight. 12-16 months is a significant time especially on the internet for people to change entirely

 

[theCarso]

I'm (sort of) new and don't have too much knowledge of the rep system, so I'm not exactly sure if it should automatically be removed, but I think a better system would be the ability to appeal all of your negative reps after a year to the staff, and they determine if you have changed or not depending on your forum behavior over those 12 months.

EDIT: Just to add on to this system, I don't believe the negative reps should be entirely removed if the appeal is successful, but I believe they should be "nullified" and not count towards your overall reputation, thought people can view them so they know the history of the seller.

 

[deletedusers]

I'm (sort of) new and don't have too much knowledge of the rep system, so I'm not exactly sure if it should automatically be removed, but I think a better system would be the ability to appeal all of your negative reps after a year to the staff, and they determine if you have changed or not depending on your forum behavior over those 12 months.

This is actually an amazing suggestion, if anything this is an even better take than what I posted. Staff note this one for sure

 

[TrippieWrld]

Yeah I got a neg rep for literally nothing, the person who gave it to me is banned now

 

[deletedusers]

Yeah I got a neg rep for literally nothing, the person who gave it to me is banned now

in that context you can appeal that and get it removed pretty sure