Official Bidding System

[ZsZ]

Lots of times, someone bids on your thread (mostly account sales). However, when messaging the user, they always retract their bid. IF YOU MAKE A BID, FOLLOW THROUGH (now I understand we are all guilty of this, but hear me out).


Make the bidding system like the giveaway system. When you make a bid, it shows. If you don't follow through, warning points/bans. This also would display the current offer so that people won't have to scroll through the comments to make a bid. You can also retract the bid only if you give a 3 day notice prior to the retraction of your bid. The seller can also accept your bid at any time which makes you have to pay them.


Good idea or bad idea?

 

[Sloth]

See if this thread is all about stopping people from falsely bidding on items such as accounts and pulling out of deals at the last second, they can still choose to do both of these things during the grace period if they so choose so does it really change anything. There are also rules in place that already prohibit these actions as well.

 

[ZsZ]

See if this thread is all about stopping people from falsely bidding on items such as accounts and pulling out of deals at the last second, they can still choose to do both of these things during the grace period if they so choose so does it really change anything. There are also rules in place that already prohibit these actions as well.

Your reasoning suggests that you didn't read the whole post. There is no "grace period" as you so graciously put it. The buyer can't just retract their bid whenever. They have to wait 3 days to do it. In this time period, both the buyer and seller gets notified when this happens. Therefore, the seller can choose whether to accept the bid in that time. This makes it impossible to pull out of a deal immediately. It also discourages buyers who don't commit.

TLDR: You can't pull out of a deal immediately. The process takes 3 days. Read the post.

 

[Desert]

for all the people saying "well what if the buyer doesn't like the account anymore?"

it's as simple as this. don't bid/bin an account that you don't like 100%, don't have 100% of the funds either at the time or when the auction ends, or if you know you'll need to use some of the money that you originally bidded.

 

[ZsZ]

for all the people saying "well what if the buyer doesn't like the account anymore?"

it's as simple as this. don't bid/bin an account that you don't like 100%, don't have 100% of the funds either at the time or when the auction ends, or if you know you'll need to use some of the money that you originally bidded.

Exactly.

 

[Sloth]

Your reasoning suggests that you didn't read the whole post. There is no "grace period" as you so graciously put it. The buyer can't just retract their bid whenever. They have to wait 3 days to do it. In this time period, both the buyer and seller gets notified when this happens. Therefore, the seller can choose whether to accept the bid in that time. This makes it impossible to pull out of a deal immediately. It also discourages buyers who don't commit.

TLDR: You can't pull out of a deal immediately. The process takes 3 days. Read the post.

Uh hate to break it to you but it’s not “impossible” to break out of a deal during the grace period. It’s already against the rules to make bids/offers that you don’t have any intention of keeping so if people are already breaking the rules now how would this suggestion stop them? Buyers also “forcing” people who don’t want to buy whatever they’re selling anymore will more than likely just give them more of a reason not to do any further business. Hell people will probably take the warning points over doing a deal they don’t want at the end of the day.

 

[ZsZ]

Uh hate to break it to you but it’s not “impossible” to break out of a deal during the grace period. It’s already against the rules to make bids/offers that you don’t have any intention of keeping so if people are already breaking the rules now how would this suggestion stop them? Buyers also “forcing” people who don’t want to buy whatever they’re selling anymore will more than likely just give them more of a reason not to do any further business. Hell people will probably take the warning points over doing a deal they don’t want at the end of the day.

That is why, by clarifying the rule and making bids official, people will be more reluctant to place the bid. Sellers are not forcing people to bid on items they don't want. Buyers have the choice to not place a bid . However, they must follow through with the deal if they have already placed a bid. Nowadays, people are just using the bid system to postfarm by lowballing the account. This system would make them think twice about doing that.
If you disagree, feel free to continue to let false-bidders get away with retracting bids and not being held responsible. Hell, let's just unban all the scammers while we're at it too! Why should we enforce any rule if we don't have to?

 

[BOOP]

bullshit, no one wants go through this long not needed process..

and warning points that could lead up to a long suspension or a ban because maybe you find a new account or you jusdt aren't interested anymore?

yea no

You already get warning points for false bidding

 

[Sloth]

That is why, by clarifying the rule and making bids official, people will be more reluctant to place the bid. Sellers are not forcing people to bid on items they don't want. Buyers have the choice to not place a bid . However, they must follow through with the deal if they have already placed a bid. Nowadays, people are just using the bid system to postfarm by lowballing the account. This system would make them think twice about doing that.
If you disagree, feel free to continue to let false-bidders get away with retracting bids and not being held responsible. Hell, let's just unban all the scammers while we're at it too! Why should we enforce any rule if we don't have to?

I never said I disagreed with the suggestion. Users should keep to their word and follow through with whatever it is they're bidding on. It just seems pointless when the rule is already in place and doesn't really need clarification. It just needs to be enforced, something that hasn't been done. If someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean they don't want the rules to be enforced or that scammers should be unbanned, it just means they have a different opinion than you.

 

[ZsZ]

You already get warning points for false bidding

Not really. If you do, it takes forever for staff to give out the warning points.

I never said I disagreed with the suggestion. Users should keep to their word and follow through with whatever it is they're bidding on. It just seems pointless when the rule is already in place and doesn't really need clarification. It just needs to be enforced, something that hasn't been done. If someone disagrees with you it doesn't mean they don't want the rules to be enforced or that scammers should be unbanned, it just means they have a different opinion than you.

You made it seem as if you disagreed with the post. This whole argument is pointlessly started if you agree with my suggestion. The suggestion is to centralize the whole bidding system. This holds users accountable, while making bidding easier as it is fully automated. Any false/fake bids can be automatically reported and handled quickly. Just don't disagree with the thread if you actually agree with it .

 

[Mick]

As Jack has said, we did have a plan and even began development on an auction system in the past but it ultimately never happened. Attached is a mockup I found that I made way back in 2015 if you're interested in looking at roughly how I wanted it to look back then.

Adding a bidding system is good to streamline the process and making enforcement of bid retractions easier, but that's about it. As usual, if someone bids on your item and then they later retract their bid you are able to report that and they will receive a warning for breaking our rules.

Eventually, in the future, adding a proper bidding system would be great. At the moment we already have a lot prepared and planned in terms of custom development and a system like this isn't coming any time soon, but I do want one eventually.

I'll move this to pending. If anyone has more input on what you'd like a bidding system to look like I'll keep this thread unlocked.

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[Mick]

Exclusive product sales through our forums is a rapidly shrinking area of our site, and it's basically intentionally that way. I don't believe that we'll be able to develop a system that's powerful enough to be better than the manual way bids are currently handled without a massive time commitment, and I'm not willing to make that sort of commitment right now.

I think it definitely could be a good idea and maybe down the line when our queue frees up a bit we can reconsider, but for now I'd rather we focus on non-exclusive products.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.