Opinions on our possible hosting prices! (Rewarded)

[inferno]

Hello everyone,

Today I am here requesting a few opinions and recommendations on our possible hosting pricing!

We would like to know what you, the consumers would pay for the following

Budget hosting:
Ryzen 5 3600(x)
Intel i7 7700k
Intel i7 9700k

Premium Hosting:
I9 9900k
Ryzen 3900X

They will be available in the EU, and NA. ( Looking to expand to AU )

What is a fair price per GB if threads are also allocated per server? Please let us know, and we will put everybody who comments into giveaway ( In our discord ) For either nitro, paypal $, or store credit when we release. Please either join our discord: https://discord.gg/n3Xhjzc
Or comment here the fair pricing and we will be checking them out. (Prefer discord as its much quicker to get replies from either party)


Thank you all and have a great day.

 

[inferno]

You need to come to the realization that the Minecraft server hosting industry is severely oversaturated. You aren't going to do much of anything if anything at all. I'm not shooting the thread down by any means, but there's really no discernable difference between you and other hosting providers.

I'm well aware its saturated but for starters, we are not only going to be selling Minecraft servers. It'll be universal to a lot of other game servers, voice chat servers, web hosts, vps's etc. Next, we have a lot of plans to be released once we put them in place to improve our service a lot from one of the current hosting companies. I appreciate the tip though. thanks

 

[Zerxal]

Realistically, you’re going to get zero traction unless if you sell $1.50/GB and under. This market is extremely saturated. If you sell too expensive, have no major differences between other hosts besides just “better support,” you will wither away and die within three months.

You will be at a loss for a while, as well. If you seriously want to roll the dice on this with having a low chance of being successful, you need to have money saved to get you through the long haul to profitability.

 

[inferno]

Realistically, you’re going to get zero traction unless if you sell $1.50/GB and under. This market is extremely saturated. If you sell too expensive, have no major differences between other hosts besides just “better support,” you will wither away and die within three months.

You will be at a loss for a while, as well. If you seriously want to roll the dice on this with having a low chance of being successful, you need to have money saved to get you through the long haul to profitability.

Do you mean 1.5 and under for premium or budget? And yes, I have talked to my partner and we're aware that for the first few months we will be at lost ( mainly due to setup fees ) but know that once you get people hooked on and provide proper service they will stay. Its mainly a matter of maintenance and investments.

 

[Zerxal]

Do you mean 1.5 and under for premium or budget? And yes, I have talked to my partner and we're aware that for the first few months we will be at lost ( mainly due to setup fees ) but know that once you get people hooked on and provide proper service they will stay. Its mainly a matter of maintenance and investments.

$1.50/GB overall, regardless of hardware. Your standard is going to have to be in the realm of <$1/GB

 

[inferno]

$1.50/GB overall, regardless of hardware. Your standard is going to have to be in the realm of <$1/GB

to be fair, that's more than possible selling is at 1.5$ each if you can get people to buy more than like 3 gigs at a time

 

[7wh]

to be fair, that's more than possible selling is at 1.5$ each if you can get people to buy more than like 3 gigs at a time

You shouldn't be expecting that though, because it doesn't match with the target audience who's buying over a different company because of a $0.50 difference.

I don't know who you are, I think I've spoken to you on discord before. The hosting realm is EXTREMELY saturated dude, you being confused about proper pricing will not make it any easier. If I were in your position, I'd reconsider starting your company up, or just hire an actual expert on this type of stuff instead of asking a minecraft forum.

 

[inferno]

You shouldn't be expecting that though, because it doesn't match with the target audience who's buying over a different company because of a $0.50 difference.

I don't know who you are, I think I've spoken to you on discord before. The hosting realm is EXTREMELY saturated dude, you being confused about proper pricing will not make it any easier. If I were in your position, I'd reconsider starting your company up, or just hire an actual expert on this type of stuff instead of asking a minecraft forum.

That's not what this thread is about. I've already calculated what we need to sell at including fees, expenses and such to profit at the end of the month. Of course considering the fact that all dedis may not fill up. The whole point of this thread is to find people's opinions on what THEY'D pay, not of how much will help us profit. I've seen competitors and they all sell pretty cheap but sell a lot, which is my objective that I've seen realized before. We have the proper budgeting to make it happen. I've worked with hosting before and have the experience to know how it works and how to run a proper host. Thank you for your concern

 

[inferno]

No. Hiring a "actual expert" isn't going to do any good. Minecraft hosting businesses are fundamentally different from most businesses. At the end of the day, the core strategy of a business is to make money. Yes, that can be said for server hosts. However, the "actual expert" isn't going to know much about the industry itself. He's not wrong for asking on this thread. I used to co-own PebbleHost, and was Lead Systems Engineer there.

Regardless, it's 2020 almost 2021. Minecraft is dying as a whole, server hosts are dropping because the price point to be competitive has been changed from $3/gb to $1/gb, because of PebbleHost.

You really need to have a fundamentally different strategy in terms of the industry, and if you have to ask, then its best to put it to rest and save your money for something else. You won't be getting far in the hosting industry.

Exactly as you mentioned, pebblehost will always be a great option for people who want to start off servers, but I am 100% sure that if you find somebody who is not aware of pebblehost they are easier persuaded to check out your service. However, as you mentioned they have very good prices so the alternative to that would be adding more and better features. Features the host may pay one time for and the investment would come back over time. I don't know if pebble does this without additional charges, but maybe adding in free threads per server depending on the specs, helping out with performance, and such ( or cores, I am not 100% sure ). But it could be very useful. I am sure people would rather pay a little bit extra for the same specs but more features as long as you provide quick support and efficient support. For example, say we spent 1$ per gig ourselves on dedis. But sell for 1.5 at 64 gigs. That's 32$ profit, including fees maybe 25-28$ profit depending on how many payments are sent rather than payment size (set fees and not %'s). And if we were to continue filling up dedis we would have constant clients returning to us, rather than getting a one time larger sum meaning once we see our client base start to go down we know we need to improve. Having 32$ profit a machine, put that into maybe 6 machines bring in 192$ profit ( before fees ) a month, invested into ads, new features, and your staff. Of course, these numbers may be inaccurate as pricing and filling up dedis may differ. I have made many mixed points here, but the main point is, quality over quantity. Pebble has good servers but lacks some pretty important features. The most important one I saw was the budget backup issue. Where you need to pay for backups. I find that if you have around 2TB or even 1 per machine, allow 7 days of backups and manage to sell more ram on 1 server you could easily give out 7 days of backups for free without a loss.