Place for Vouches

[Zeiyon]

Well, I was wondering,
Since a lot of people don't want the "feedback trading" thing on mcm,
I was wondering if perhaps we could ads something different, maybe like a "vouches" tab under you profile?
I know there was a vouches sections for premiums a few months ago, but no-one used it, so I was wondering, maybe we could have a vouches tab in our profiles?
This would make it much easier for people to see our vouches and not have to go through our profile posts, which are not always vouches.

Also, it would be cool to have a way to implement the "vouches" in any threads you create.

This is just an idea to make things more

 

[frozenheat]

OMG Yes pls

 

[Zeiyon]

OMG Yes pls

Glad you thought it was good.

 

[thebaum64]

I mean there used to be but it was never used really

 

[Zeiyon]

I mean there used to be but it was never used really

But that was only for premium members, and it was its own section.
This would be in our profile, under a tab.

 

[thebaum64]

But that was only for premium members, and it was its own section.
This would be in our profile, under a tab.

That would be similar to the feed back system then, but something is needed but idk if it is needed right now.

 

[Zeiyon]

Or just tell people to post vouches on your profile..? Oh and simple fix for the non-vouch posts? Click delete on them. Extremely easy to do and easy to see. Don't know why people keep trying to get some special way to vouch added when this very simple way is already here.

well the profile page is for profile posts... not vouches, but thats what everyone uses it for.[DOUBLEPOST=1457966550][/DOUBLEPOST]

That would be similar to the feed back system then, but something is needed but idk if it is needed right now.

well it would, but this is just all vouches, not scattered everywhere...
but in a special place.

 

[Zeiyon]

"special place" aka right on your profile... I seriously don't get how you don't see that yet.

I dont understand how you dont want a place to put your vouches...
it simply makes your vouches more organized and easier for "new" members or even regular members.
I dont simply understand how this could be a bad idea,
could you explain to me?

 

[Zeiyon]

Oh, im not saying its a bad idea at all. Just saying why not use your profile page as that "special" place? It'd save staff from having to go pay or make it and we'd have basically the same thing. Plus unless all vouches on profile move over too.. i think most people would bitch saying they "lost vouches". I just don't feel like changing it and having the community flip out over something dumb.. once again.

Well, I see your point there,
but I dont think people will really get mad over this.
As all this is doing is making the already made system easier to use.
Plus, you can vouch anywhere, it doesnt matter, but on there it will just be better.
Also, maybe you can "Quote" people too?

 

[Zeiyon]

I mean if people don't bitch and it works, It'd be nice to have. If only more people gave input on this..

Justis
nara~kavi
montyburly

Well that's the think,
You're saying what you think the "majority" of the people think, but this is about what you think.
So you are disagreeing because you think people will disagree, but you don't think that,

 

[Justis]

Or just tell people to post vouches on your profile..? Oh and simple fix for the non-vouch posts? Click delete on them. Extremely easy to do and easy to see. Don't know why people keep trying to get some special way to vouch added when this very simple way is already here.

Your profile is obviously the best choice for vouches right now.
It's always easy to access, specific to each member, and everybody has one. It's reliable.
Only I don't want to delete every post on my profile just so only my vouches are visible.
I like having a lively profile, and I like communicating publicly with others on it.
Still, I would love for people interested in my vouches to be able to know where to find them, and read them.
A vouch tab would be perfect for this.
It retains all the original benefits of profile post vouches, only separate and organized.

Some changes I would make...
I'd like to see this be more of a "Review" tab, than a "Vouch" tab.
I don't want to see a bunch of "Vouch +1"s, those are useless.
I want genuine reviews, with the positives AND the negatives.

Members should only be able to give one review per user.

They should be able to edit their past reviews, so they're not stuck with their first initial impression of the user.

Also....
Most importantly...
In order for it to have any value or meaning...
They need to be general reviews.
Staff have no way of verifying what vouches are legit from a deal, and what aren't.
We tried doing this with the last "Trade rating" thing, and it was an obvious failure.
Still, with the changes from ratings to reactions, and everyone promoting "Reactions aren't rep", we do need a reputation system.

What is rep?
reputation |ˌrepyəˈtāSHən| noun
the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone or something

So we need a system that will gauge the community's general beliefs or opinions on a person.
Reactions were being used for this before, but those are meant for individual posts.. It has flaws.
A general review system would perfect this.
I think we can all agree that the verbal reviews mean more than anything else you can get.
Every user has one opinion of another user.
They only get one opinion.
The entire community's collective opinion of a single user makes their reputation on this site.

If you are engaged in the community, if you're a big part of this site, you'll have a lot of reviews, a strong reputation.
In which direction? Positive or negative? Depends on how you affect each individual member.
If you have a lot of successful deals, you'll probably have a lot of positive reviews from those people.
If you go around trashing people and arguing and flaming, you'll probably have a lot of negative reviews.
This is an accurate measurement of the community's reaction to you, and your real reputation.

 

[Zeiyon]

Your profile is obviously the best choice for vouches right now.
It's always easy to access, specific to each member, and everybody has one. It's reliable.
Only I don't want to delete every post on my profile just so only my vouches are visible.
I like having a lively profile, and I like communicating publicly with others on it.
Still, I would love for people interested in my vouches to be able to know where to find them, and read them.
A vouch tab would be perfect for this.
It retains all the original benefits of profile post vouches, only separate and organized.

Some changes I would make...
I'd like to see this be more of a "Review" tab, than a "Vouch" tab.
I don't want to see a bunch of "Vouch +1"s, those are useless.
I want genuine reviews, with the positives AND the negatives.

Members should only be able to give one review per user.

They should be able to edit their past reviews, so they're not stuck with their first initial impression of the user.

Also....
Most importantly...
In order for it to have any value or meaning...
They need to be general reviews.
Staff have no way of verifying what vouches are legit from a deal, and what aren't.
We tried doing this with the last "Trade rating" thing, and it was an obvious failure.
Still, with the changes from ratings to reactions, and everyone promoting "Reactions aren't rep", we do need a reputation system.

What is rep?
reputation |ˌrepyəˈtāSHən| noun
the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone or something

So we need a system that will gauge the community's general beliefs or opinions on a person.
Reactions were being used for this before, but those are meant for individual posts.. It has flaws.
A general review system would perfect this.
I think we can all agree that the verbal reviews mean more than anything else you can get.
Every user has one opinion of another user.
They only get one opinion.
The entire community's collective opinion of a single user makes their reputation on this site.

If you are engaged in the community, if you're a big part of this site, you'll have a lot of reviews, a strong reputation.
In which direction? Positive or negative? Depends on how you affect each individual member.
If you have a lot of successful deals, you'll probably have a lot of positive reviews from those people.
If you go around trashing people and arguing and flaming, you'll probably have a lot of negative reviews.
This is an accurate measurement of the community's reaction to you, and your real reputation.

May I add this to the thread above?
As a spoiler so everyone can see?
This is a piece of art?[DOUBLEPOST=1457974263][/DOUBLEPOST]thebaum64 Doge Errota,
Can you guys add this at the original post as I cannot edit it?
Thanks, (with the spoiler)

Spoiler: Justis R's Amazing Words

Your profile is obviously the best choice for vouches right now.
It's always easy to access, specific to each member, and everybody has one. It's reliable.
Only I don't want to delete every post on my profile just so only my vouches are visible.
I like having a lively profile, and I like communicating publicly with others on it.
Still, I would love for people interested in my vouches to be able to know where to find them, and read them.
A vouch tab would be perfect for this.
It retains all the original benefits of profile post vouches, only separate and organized.

Some changes I would make...
I'd like to see this be more of a "Review" tab, than a "Vouch" tab.
I don't want to see a bunch of "Vouch +1"s, those are useless.
I want genuine reviews, with the positives AND the negatives.

Members should only be able to give one review per user.

They should be able to edit their past reviews, so they're not stuck with their first initial impression of the user.

Also....
Most importantly...
In order for it to have any value or meaning...
They need to be general reviews.
Staff have no way of verifying what vouches are legit from a deal, and what aren't.
We tried doing this with the last "Trade rating" thing, and it was an obvious failure.
Still, with the changes from ratings to reactions, and everyone promoting "Reactions aren't rep", we do need a reputation system.

What is rep?
reputation |ˌrepyəˈtāSHən| noun
the beliefs or opinions that are generally held about someone or something

So we need a system that will gauge the community's general beliefs or opinions on a person.
Reactions were being used for this before, but those are meant for individual posts.. It has flaws.
A general review system would perfect this.
I think we can all agree that the verbal reviews mean more than anything else you can get.
Every user has one opinion of another user.
They only get one opinion.
The entire community's collective opinion of a single user makes their reputation on this site.

If you are engaged in the community, if you're a big part of this site, you'll have a lot of reviews, a strong reputation.
In which direction? Positive or negative? Depends on how you affect each individual member.
If you have a lot of successful deals, you'll probably have a lot of positive reviews from those people.
If you go around trashing people and arguing and flaming, you'll probably have a lot of negative reviews.
This is an accurate measurement of the community's reaction to you, and your real reputation

 

[montyburly]

I don't see a problem with it but I don't really think it would help that much. People just vouch for their friends and write cheesy messages about how they're trustworthy. The feedback system was just a big asskissing fest and this probably would be too. I mean there's not really a problem with that it just doesn't solve anything.

 

[Zeiyon]

I don't see a problem with it but I don't really think it would help that much. People just vouch for their friends and write cheesy messages about how they're trustworthy. The feedback system was just a big asskissing fest and this probably would be too. I mean there's not really a problem with that it just doesn't solve anything.

It's not suppoused to really solve anything,
It's just suppoused to make it easier to find vouches.
Vouches would work the same way as normal, just in a special place.
If people can vouch for their friend rn, then they can with this.

 

[montyburly]

It's not suppoused to really solve anything,
It's just suppoused to make it easier to find vouches.
Vouches would work the same way as normal, just in a special place.
If people can vouch for their friend rn, then they can with this.

Sounds like a good idea to me but good luck convincing staff to make a positive change here rather than a retarded one