PROVE ME WRONG: Service Companies are Pointless

[koshr]

DISCLAIMER: When I refer to service companies in this I am not referring to build teams or any sort of team-based company. I am referring to the idiots that make a Discord and hire freelancers and provide no real benefits to the freelancers.

I have seen the seven-millionth service 'company' that asks for a cut of a freelancers income for doing absolutely nothing. Most of these companies literally just pick up customers from this website and hire their freelancers from this website. What is the point? You are a worthless middleman that acts as if you provide some sort of benefit to the people who work for you.

What makes it worse is that a lot of the companies will just hire anyone with a miniscule amount of experience because it gives them a miniscule chance of making a miniscule profit. So as a customer looking to hire a freelancer, you can't really value the integrity of most of these companies.

What really grinds my gears is when they give their company a bogus name like "Completely Useless Solutions' and give themselves the title of 'CEO' as if it actually holds any value what-so-ever.

The solution is simple. Avoid service companies and support individuals who are smart enough to stay away from the service 'companies' that provide almost no benefit to the freelancers they hire.

Their are a few decent companies that follow this business model, but ninety-nine percent of them is some kid trying to profit off of someone else's talent and skill. If you are a customer looking to hire a freelancer, don't use a service company. If you are a freelancer, make your own post and your clients can find you.

 

[Samuel V]

10/10 you win

 

[User]

PROVE ME WRONG: stop posting these, it's been said like 200 times

https://www.mc-market.org/threads/617515/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/580777/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/590076/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/553002/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/585141/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/548420/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/497275/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/459985/

 

[koshr]

PROVE ME WRONG: stop posting these, it's been said like 200 times

https://www.mc-market.org/threads/617515/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/580777/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/590076/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/553002/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/585141/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/548420/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/497275/
https://www.mc-market.org/threads/459985/

I don't spend my time monitoring the activity of every other user on this website, sorry if that bothers you. I noticed something, I made a post about it. It doesn't hurt to give more attention to an issue anyways.

 

[Ethan O.]

I think I'll be the one that defends all the 'service companies' out there, even though my company is a Freelancer service.

Freelancers who are just starting out, often find it difficult to find clients, as the more reputable freelancers can always swoop in and take any of their commissions. So companies, like us, connect Freelancers with clients in a fair way so that everyone has the same chance of getting a commission.

We take 10%, which is NOT the worst out there. But why do we take it? In order to grow and provide additional support to our freelancers we do it. Companies like Fiverr, Upwork, Guru and many others all take MUCH more, yet look how successful they are? Surely we are doing something right

We're also in the middle of developing a site which we will use to benefit the Freelancers, we're reworking our system to be more fair and to give a better Client experience. We're also using the 10% of commissions we take to introduce new roles into our staff team to provide support and advice to freelancers on how to grow themselves out and improve their workflow. They don't need to go out looking for work with us, we bring it to them and provide them with the support they need to do it the work well. So yes, we do indeed benefit the freelancers.

We don't just hire anyone, I can't speak for all companies, but my company has a rigorous process, that does not happen in 10 minutes. Yes we will take all levels of experiences but we look at everything surrounding that person also. You do have to start somewhere and we believe in taking in all levels of experience, as that's how you build up their experience. If you dont want someone with less experience, don't hire them.

Lastly, my company hasn't actually profited yet. As we're investing our surplus straight back into our company, improving what we offer to Clients and Freelancers alike, as can be proven by our site in development and our Money back guarantee. Could we profit right now? Yes, if I didn't have so much passion in providing the best possible experience for all.

I also don't appreciate you calling us 'Idiots' or 'Useless' or joining my discord and attacking my community. It looks bad on your side.

Prove ME wrong.

 

[Jackson L]

Some service companies are alright, but in general, I think service companies are annoying. They occupy a lot of space, you don’t get consistent service, and it feels like you’re going to a random server rather than an individual, talented freelancer you want to use. Plus, they take up all of the *new post* channel with ever more empty threads in every possible category.

 

[YeetYoshi]

Agreed

 

[Program]

The freelancers think that they can't get as many customers by themselves but yea totally agree

 

[Precise]

Yikes man

 

[VactumPlays]

I say we all get rid of our internet.
And live off nature ​

 

[koshr]

Yikes man

Yikes man. Maybe do some actual research. Also, what possible reason would I have for doing this? Plenty of people hold this same thought and do you really think I care that much over one reaction? I only even brought it up because he showed me his thread design and I noticed that he was apart of two service companies. The topic was already on my mind so I mentioned it to him as a piece of advice.

[DOUBLEPOST=1598252797][/DOUBLEPOST]

That's insane, wha-

Not really considering it is absolutely false.[DOUBLEPOST=1598253544][/DOUBLEPOST]

I think I'll be the one that defends all the 'service companies' out there, even though my company is a Freelancer service.

Freelancers who are just starting out, often find it difficult to find clients, as the more reputable freelancers can always swoop in and take any of their commissions. So companies, like us, connect Freelancers with clients in a fair way so that everyone has the same chance of getting a commission.

We take 10%, which is NOT the worst out there. But why do we take it? In order to grow and provide additional support to our freelancers we do it. Companies like Fiverr, Upwork, Guru and many others all take MUCH more, yet look how successful they are? Surely we are doing something right

We're also in the middle of developing a site which we will use to benefit the Freelancers, we're reworking our system to be more fair and to give a better Client experience. We're also using the 10% of commissions we take to introduce new roles into our staff team to provide support and advice to freelancers on how to grow themselves out and improve their workflow. They don't need to go out looking for work with us, we bring it to them and provide them with the support they need to do it the work well. So yes, we do indeed benefit the freelancers.

We don't just hire anyone, I can't speak for all companies, but my company has a rigorous process, that does not happen in 10 minutes. Yes we will take all levels of experiences but we look at everything surrounding that person also. You do have to start somewhere and we believe in taking in all levels of experience, as that's how you build up their experience. If you dont want someone with less experience, don't hire them.

Lastly, my company hasn't actually profited yet. As we're investing our surplus straight back into our company, improving what we offer to Clients and Freelancers alike, as can be proven by our site in development and our Money back guarantee. Could we profit right now? Yes, if I didn't have so much passion in providing the best possible experience for all.

I also don't appreciate you calling us 'Idiots' or 'Useless' or joining my discord and attacking my community. It looks bad on your side.

Prove ME wrong.

Yes, I think these companies are useless. Yes, I think you're an idiot for acting so self important and making your profile picture on Discord you wearing a business suit. We understand what your company claims to be, the reality is that it isn't nearly as great as you make it sound. That is the problem. You explaining and justifying isn't going to change the problem. The problem is that it is generic and has been done dozens of times before. The idea isn't bad, but very few are actually worth being a part of. If you want to start one of these companies, great. However if you plan on pulling the freelancers from this website then you should also be reputable on this website which you are not.

 

[Ethan O.]

Yikes man. Maybe do some actual research. Also, what possible reason would I have for doing this? Plenty of people hold this same thought and do you really think I care that much over one reaction? I only even brought it up because he showed me his thread design and I noticed that he was apart of two service companies. The topic was already on my mind so I mentioned it to him as a piece of advice.
View attachment 385440[DOUBLEPOST=1598252797][/DOUBLEPOST]
Not really considering it is absolutely false.[DOUBLEPOST=1598253544][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yes, I think these companies are useless. Yes, I think you're an idiot for acting so self important and making your profile picture on Discord you wearing a business suit. We understand what your company claims to be, the reality is that it isn't nearly as great as you make it sound. That is the problem. You explaining and justifying isn't going to change the problem. The problem is that it is generic and has been done dozens of times before. The idea isn't bad, but very few are actually worth being a part of. If you want to start one of these companies, great. However if you plan on pulling the freelancers from this website then you should also be reputable on this website which you are not.

I am not going to argue about it. I have my opinion and you have yours. I just wanted to state my opinion here.

 

[Ty]

cool story bro

 

[Sloth]

Whining about them isn’t going to make them suddenly disappear. If that were the case they would’ve vanished the first 1000 times people have cried over them.

 

[Raikasta]

As a "random" developer on mc-market, it can be hard to find customers without any vouches/previous customers.
Service Teams are bit annoying, but they do marketing for you

 

[Emissions]

I somewhat agree. Some teams are good, some are bad. I mean, my experience with Senior Team was appalling, thus I left this reputation: https://www.mc-market.org/feedback/feedback/158386/view. However, my experience with DevRoom Team has been great. They even tipped me when I joined the team for my good performance. Teams can be detrimental, and I can definitely say the market is saturated, but at the same time, teams also bring together all these freelancers that would otherwise probably never talk.

 

[YeetYoshi]

First of all, I would like to apologize to Jaret and Percise because of the false information I gave them. Jaret did not tell me to say agreed and I said it on my own behalf. I know what I did was wrong and I didn't know how to reply. I just want to say I'm sorry, and I agree myself without anyone changing my thoughts.

Yikes man. Maybe do some actual research. Also, what possible reason would I have for doing this? Plenty of people hold this same thought and do you really think I care that much over one reaction? I only even brought it up because he showed me his thread design and I noticed that he was apart of two service companies. The topic was already on my mind so I mentioned it to him as a piece of advice.
View attachment 385440[DOUBLEPOST=1598252797][/DOUBLEPOST]
Not really considering it is absolutely false.[DOUBLEPOST=1598253544][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yes, I think these companies are useless. Yes, I think you're an idiot for acting so self important and making your profile picture on Discord you wearing a business suit. We understand what your company claims to be, the reality is that it isn't nearly as great as you make it sound. That is the problem. You explaining and justifying isn't going to change the problem. The problem is that it is generic and has been done dozens of times before. The idea isn't bad, but very few are actually worth being a part of. If you want to start one of these companies, great. However if you plan on pulling the freelancers from this website then you should also be reputable on this website which you are not.