Put a alert bar at the top of a Member's Profile when they have a open Scam Report

[GS]

So, this is kinda inspired from another forum which shall not be named but for example:
https://prnt.sc/nlv1vv this is what happens when a member has a open scam report and you click on there profile. I think MCM should implant this as it may make it better to see if the person you are dealing with is a scammer i think it would help prevent scams in my opion .

 

[GS]

I swear if I see eclipse on this thread saying “innocent until proven guilty” I am going to fucking lose it

L M A O

 

[DeletedUser372845]

Well, Wouldnt the person who was scammed give them a neg rep or write something on their profile? I mean out of everything mc-market needs done this prob isn't a major priority, but it would be nice.

 

[NJ_]

Would be helpful, but 90% of kids get banned for bad evading not scamming.

 

[User]

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50 members per page

50 x 352 = 17600

Now think about how many of those are banned for scamming, and were able to scam mass amounts due to new members not knowing about the scam report system

the amount banned for scamming is low compared to other reasons such as ban evading, and the amount of scammers that scam new members is also, like, halved (the rest scam out on larger members). And then even that number is lowered, because not all of these scammers scammed multiple times and had a scam report created on them before they scammed their last member. If we factor all that in, the amount that actually fit the criteria for this to be helpful to them is probably around 250, if I had to make a guess. Now, this issue with this suggestion, is that this would also show up on the profile of those who haven't done anything wrong; even if the scam report explicitly says "He didn't scam me, but... (late on loan, my GFX aren't good, freelancers/YTs left my discord, etc)", any potential buyers will likely be immediately hesitant to deal with them, effectively slowing or halting the accused's deals until the end of the scam report, which can be weeks or even over a year.

 

[Flipora]

the amount banned for scamming is low compared to other reasons such as ban evading, and the amount of scammers that scam new members is also, like, halved (the rest scam out on larger members). And then even that number is lowered, because not all of these scammers scammed multiple times and had a scam report created on them before they scammed their last member. If we factor all that in, the amount that actually fit the criteria for this to be helpful to them is probably around 250, if I had to make a guess. Now, this issue with this suggestion, is that this would also show up on the profile of those who haven't done anything wrong; even if the scam report explicitly says "He didn't scam me, but... (late on loan, my GFX aren't good, freelancers/YTs left my discord, etc)", any potential buyers will likely be immediately hesitant to deal with them, effectively slowing or halting the accused's deals until the end of the scam report, which can be weeks or even over a year.

honestly, in my opinion, that is a risk that we have to take. you dont open a scam report unless you cannot get what you need / deserve out of someone, so really there isn't a case in which both parties are friendly with each other and open a scam report. sure, it might be bad to a small percentage of people who aren't scamming, but let's be honest, most people who get a scam report opened on them either scammed or scammed and decided they would rather pay the person back than get banned so they do that in the scam report.

 

[User]

honestly, in my opinion, that is a risk that we have to take. you dont open a scam report unless you cannot get what you need / deserve out of someone, so really there isn't a case in which both parties are friendly with each other and open a scam report. sure, it might be bad to a small percentage of people who aren't scamming, but let's be honest, most people who get a scam report opened on them either scammed or scammed and decided they would rather pay the person back than get banned so they do that in the scam report.

There are 120 pages of closed scam reports and 150 pages of banned scam reports. That's no small percentage, that's almost half the reports.

 

[Zyger]

On the other forum scam reports are resolved a lot faster, meaning they'd only have the tag temporarily if they're legit. On here it takes weeks for them to be resolved due to how many there are, meaning legit people may be stuck with the tag, making them look bad. If we had more scam resolvers, scam reports would be resolved a lot faster, and then this would be a good idea, but at the moment it would just make it harder for legit people to sell their products and services.

 

[Kram]

Putting someone temporarily out of “business” for 2 months because someone is impersonating and Kram can’t even do his job properly

If it makes you happy to say that :tup:

I do understand the concerns on the thread as scam reports do often last longer than they ideally should. With that said, I think if it is worded correctly it can be helpful to buyers and still not business destroying for the legit sellers.
The problem is people often don’t know they have a dispute open for various reasons, whether they don’t know what a scam report is or if the seller has tried to remove any traces from their page. If it is something like “This user has x scam report(s) on them. If dealing with this user, consider reading over the scam report.” And then linking the scam reports.
That way, they can link the scam reports and the ones that are filled with proof will caution the seller to take extra precautions and the ones with no proof other users can see it is likely an impersonation or a misunderstanding.
Of course, this is the ideal situation in my eyes, that doesn’t mean all users can see scam reports and make a call so I understand that it isn’t ideal but I do think it’ll limit people who are going on a scamming spree.

 

[Mick]

I swear if I see eclipse on this thread saying “innocent until proven guilty” I am going to fucking lose it

If this same suggestion wasn't posted almost as much as a MCM app then we wouldn't need to give the same answer each time. We aren't going to punish users because they have a scam report open against them, users are innocent until they are proven guilty.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.