Question for UK users

[Ever]

I don’t follow politics, but as an average citizen I don’t even understand half the shit they stand for. I wish they just made a YouTube video underlining what they were going to do and change.
I think most young people just see conservatives support the rich, labour supports the poor. I’ve seen labour target young people through influencers such as rappers etc. They just see all these great things like free uni, tax the rich etc but don’t look at the implications of this. Like if you tax the rich more they’re just going to move to their businesses over seas.

I just think the main problem the UK has is immigration. I’ve drove through towns in Birmingham and they’re just filled with Pakistanis and foreign people, overtaking everything. Even all the shops and bars are in a foreign language.
I believe we should allow asylum seekers but they should be forced to learn English and emerge themselves in British culture, and not just overrun towns with there shit.
We should get an immigration system like America.

"filled with Pakistanis and foreign people, overtaking everything.."

You know what, I was living reading the first half of your post but this line just changed my whole opinion on what you just said. In the 1940s or something, the British invited the Indians and foreigners over here to help in factories, the cotton trade etc. A big example of this is the Cotton mill industry in Blackburn. These foreigners left their families as they saw England as a better opportunity. most of these people sent back most of their income to their families back in India, as they were poor and just about got by.

Most of these people embraced the culture of England and learnt the language, etc.

"Should not overrun the town with shit". Right, let's get this clear. These foreigners who have come to England have been taking the jobs which many Englishmen see as low and don't take. Eg. Binmen, street cleaners etc.

Now, let's talk about the foreign shops. What do you expect? Tens of thousands of people from a certain country (eg. Poland) will have stayed in one country, eg. Preston. There will be a demand for Polish food as these people will have gone from eating it all the time to never seeing it again. This was also the food they love and were brought up with so you just can't expect them to never eat it again. Not only this, but the food brings diversity and new experiences taste wise to England.

Curry? Came from India
Chinese? Well, it came from China lol
Italian? Came from Italy lmao
These are some of the most loved takeaways England has to offer.

 

[Leeiuum]

"filled with Pakistanis and foreign people, overtaking everything.."

You know what, I was living reading the first half of your post but this line just changed my whole opinion on what you just said. In the 1940s or something, the British invited the Indians and foreigners over here to help in factories, the cotton trade etc. A big example of this is the Cotton mill industry in Blackburn. These foreigners left their families as they saw England as a better opportunity. most of these people sent back most of their income to their families back in India, as they were poor and just about got by.

Most of these people embraced the culture of England and learnt the language, etc.

"Should not overrun the town with shit". Right, let's get this clear. These foreigners who have come to England have been taking the jobs which many Englishmen see as low and don't take. Eg. Binmen, street cleaners etc.

Now, let's talk about the foreign shops. What do you expect? Tens of thousands of people from a certain country (eg. Poland) will have stayed in one country, eg. Preston. There will be a demand for Polish food as these people will have gone from eating it all the time to never seeing it again. This was also the food they love and were brought up with so you just can't expect them to never eat it again. Not only this, but the food brings diversity and new experiences taste wise to England.

Curry? Came from India
Chinese? Well, it came from China lol
Italian? Came from Italy lmao
These are some of the most loved takeaways England has to offer.

Quite a lot of them are British as well.

I too agreed with Vine's comment until it got full on racist. My line is drawn when people immigrate illegally. Illegally I fucking hate, no matter the circumstances, legally however I'm completely fine with.

 

[Ever]

I know this is racist but it’s the pakis like they do overtake whole villages. I don’t have a problem with the ones that find work, but most of them don’t and just take advantage of the free housing and benefits. They’re not offering anything to our country. In America, the only way to move is to have a STEM occupation and obtain a sponsored Visa from an employer which costs the company about 10k and only lasts 3 years, marry a citizen, invest 2.5mil in a us company, or open a business with at least 500k and have 10 full time us employees. That’s the system we need.

With regards to the fact that they take over a full city.
An example of this is Blackburn. In the 1940s or so, there was a great demand of factory employees in Blackburn. To solve this, the British looked to employ people from India, Pakistan etc. Therefore, lots of Pakistanis moved to Blackburn and since, having moved. Their children may have wanted to stay local so after not long, they conquered a whole town lol[DOUBLEPOST=1590412404][/DOUBLEPOST]

Quite a lot of them are British as well.

I too agreed with Vine's comment until it got full on racist. My line is drawn when people immigrate illegally. Illegally I fucking hate, no matter the circumstances, legally however I'm completely fine with.

Fully agree mate!

 

[Ever]

If there country is war-torn I believe they should be allowed to come over here. However, they must be forced to fully emerge themselves in British culture, including paying tax's, speaking English and having shops/restaurants that are actually English. My driving instructor told me as we were passing through this town in brum that all these shops were once English and that was an Irish pub but now they're all over run. People didn't visit them anymore because the town was full of immigrants so they closed, then the they took over.
For people that aren't seeking asylum, they should be required to have some sort of higher education. If they wish to come to the UK to get an education that is fine. They should be granted a student visa, and once they finish university they must get a working Visa and a company to sponsor them.
I know I'm being slightly racist, but these immigrants don't work. They have kids, their parents don't bring them up right. A town near me is full of Pakistani kids who just fucking stab each other and shit it's fucked.

Well, it depends on the individuals. Some people may choose what you're saying, some may not. There's no way to force that.

Also, there are plenty of English kids that have gotten themselves into knife crime and gangs etc, you can't just say it's the Pakistani kids

 

[Ever]

I never said it was just Pakistani's lmao

You didn't seem to mention kids of any other race?

 

[OwO]

Just as a headsup before I put my opinion forward, I'm conservative. Conservative as in Boris Johnson and not as in Donald Trump... Anyway, I'm just going to give this: I see both political sides in the UK and I'm slightly more to the conservative party.

With what the government's advice regarding the Coronavirus situation and the regulations (not to go out for any reason) is slightly vague and the UK population should know better than what they have done so far. A lot of the population have ignored government rules and regulations set out including government officials (Cummings, that official in Scotland that went to their holiday home). From what I've gathered, the difference between Cummings and that other person is that it was an emergency for his family as he and his wife had coronavirus and needed a safe place for their child. I don't know directly since I don't put too much attention at hand to politics but that's what I've read so far.

I've also read that people complain about children dying in hospitals alone without their families as well as loved ones and it can't at all be true. People all over the country completely ignore the regulations and I don't see why hospitals are any different, especially with those dying from the virus. There are plenty in both parties that are ignorant of other people's safety.

People are blindly blaming the prime minister for the deaths of COVID, whereas truly it's nobody's (cause of) fault. The World Health Organisation has brought many claims that the UK has based their information of and were completely wrong about it. China had also kept popularity of COVID small even when it was classified as a pandemic, point being that the spread of COVID was due to the lack of communication with China and WHO.

It doesn't help when other people can't give two shits about COVID spreading and breaks the rules anyway, causing it to spread even more making it the general public's fault, not of the UK in particular, of any country. Though the widespread was caused by people here not taking COVID seriously.

Conclusion: Boris Johnson helped us get out of the EU (best call, we have more money to fund the NHS, and EU hasn't helped most countries that are in the European Union with protective equipment) and people only started complaining about Cummings because he's a politician. There are thousands already doing the same.

People are just ignorant.

I would say there's a reason for the Corona Virus's death toll and it's not Boris or even most politicians in most countries, it's China's coverup in the early weeks/months of the virus and the WHO's sheer incompetence at doing their damn job

 

[Leeiuum]

I would say there's a reason for the Corona Virus's death toll and it's not Boris or even most politicians in most countries, it's China's coverup in the early weeks/months of the virus and the WHO's sheer incompetence at doing their damn job

Exactly.

People making fun of/complaining about Boris shaking hands when the pandemic first hit. People are ignorant or are not aware of the fact that WHO published an article/release that COVID can't be passed on physically.

The UK government has reflected on advice given them from the EU, the WHO who have been both given inaccurate information and have caused more deaths and are mostly to blame for the thousands of death in the UK.

 

[OwO]

Quite a lot of them are British as well.

I too agreed with Vine's comment until it got full on racist. My line is drawn when people immigrate illegally. Illegally I fucking hate, no matter the circumstances, legally however I'm completely fine with.

I think he didn't formulate it well, I think he meant that immigrants should integrate better as right now whole towns become just ghettos of people from a specific country.

 

[Leeiuum]

After watching Dominic's perspective and take tonight I just wanted to say:
1) People acting against him are being outrageously ridiculous. At the time he took his own child to Durham, which is coincidentally where I live, we still had the massive impact (next to Yorkshire, North East) in the whole country, and also if they hadn't stopped then it would be the exact same as if they were staying at home as both their home and vehicle are safe in terms of bacteria/virus.

2) Like I said in my original post; it is raging all against Cummings because he's a politician, whereas a lot of people in the country (most of the country perhaps) think the lockdown is a joke and most of them are at beaches and ignoring the guidelines set in place.

3) People are highlighting "don't go outside for any reason" despite not reading the rest of the guidelines. For "any reason" it gets subcategoried into eligible reasons for going out such as shopping, jobs or emergencies (and many more "essential" things).

People are ignorant and hypocritical when someone of government done it, yet there are thousands, millions doing so much worse.

As stated before, the general public are to blame. Fuck 'em.

 

[Jay PS4]

boris is a bser

 

[Webbly]

Im still following lockdown rules, i'm not fucking dumb.

 

[Ever]

Im still following lockdown rules, i'm not fucking dumb.

Does it not get frustrating?

 

[Webbly]

Does it not get frustrating?

No not really. We've got a pool and it's nice weather atm so it's all good.

 

[Llamatic]

The UK government is run by elitist sycophantic neoliberals.

Only to exist to screw over their voters and population while pocketing large sums and giving jobs to their elitist friends through nepotism.

The current UK government has never valued its population, other then for economic gain, so most people are making up their own choices as they don't trust the government at all.

Dominic Cummings is also a serial criminal and eugenicist also.

 

[Ever]

No not really. We've got a pool and it's nice weather atm so it's all good.

Well, for me it's extremely frustrating especially after seeing all the beaches jam packed today and over the last few days and the protests going on in London with no social distancing..

However, I am extremely thankful that I have 2 good sized gardens and a not too busy but beautiful park at the end of my road..

I really do feel for those who live in small houses in cities who are abiding by the quarentine.. they have been trapped for months now </3

 

[Ever]

watching all of you typing soo much and professionally i feel like im a retard

Lmao dw bro. I just type out all in a paragraph to let out my thoughts and feelings. I'm not really into politics nor do I speak to my friends about politics and people on here have great opinions which I find really interesting. So by typing out long paragraphs, I keep up the mood and the convo lol