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Just as a headsup before I put my opinion forward, I'm conservative. Conservative as in Boris Johnson and not as in Donald Trump... Anyway, I'm just going to give this: I see both political sides in the UK and I'm slightly more to the conservative party.
With what the government's advice regarding the Coronavirus situation and the regulations (not to go out for any reason) is slightly vague and the UK population should know better than what they have done so far. A lot of the population have ignored government rules and regulations set out including government officials (Cummings, that official in Scotland that went to their holiday home). From what I've gathered, the difference between Cummings and that other person is that it was an emergency for his family as he and his wife had coronavirus and needed a safe place for their child. I don't know directly since I don't put too much attention at hand to politics but that's what I've read so far.
I've also read that people complain about children dying in hospitals alone without their families as well as loved ones and it can't at all be true. People all over the country completely ignore the regulations and I don't see why hospitals are any different, especially with those dying from the virus. There are plenty in both parties that are ignorant of other people's safety.
People are blindly blaming the prime minister for the deaths of COVID, whereas truly it's nobody's (cause of) fault. The World Health Organisation has brought many claims that the UK has based their information of and were completely wrong about it. China had also kept popularity of COVID small even when it was classified as a pandemic, point being that the spread of COVID was due to the lack of communication with China and WHO.
It doesn't help when other people can't give two shits about COVID spreading and breaks the rules anyway, causing it to spread even more making it the general public's fault, not of the UK in particular, of any country. Though the widespread was caused by people here not taking COVID seriously.
Conclusion: Boris Johnson helped us get out of the EU (best call, we have more money to fund the NHS, and EU hasn't helped most countries that are in the European Union with protective equipment) and people only started complaining about Cummings because he's a politician. There are thousands already doing the same.
People are just ignorant.
With what the government's advice regarding the Coronavirus situation and the regulations (not to go out for any reason) is slightly vague and the UK population should know better than what they have done so far. A lot of the population have ignored government rules and regulations set out including government officials (Cummings, that official in Scotland that went to their holiday home). From what I've gathered, the difference between Cummings and that other person is that it was an emergency for his family as he and his wife had coronavirus and needed a safe place for their child. I don't know directly since I don't put too much attention at hand to politics but that's what I've read so far.
I've also read that people complain about children dying in hospitals alone without their families as well as loved ones and it can't at all be true. People all over the country completely ignore the regulations and I don't see why hospitals are any different, especially with those dying from the virus. There are plenty in both parties that are ignorant of other people's safety.
People are blindly blaming the prime minister for the deaths of COVID, whereas truly it's nobody's (cause of) fault. The World Health Organisation has brought many claims that the UK has based their information of and were completely wrong about it. China had also kept popularity of COVID small even when it was classified as a pandemic, point being that the spread of COVID was due to the lack of communication with China and WHO.
It doesn't help when other people can't give two shits about COVID spreading and breaks the rules anyway, causing it to spread even more making it the general public's fault, not of the UK in particular, of any country. Though the widespread was caused by people here not taking COVID seriously.
Conclusion: Boris Johnson helped us get out of the EU (best call, we have more money to fund the NHS, and EU hasn't helped most countries that are in the European Union with protective equipment) and people only started complaining about Cummings because he's a politician. There are thousands already doing the same.
People are just ignorant.
Unfortunately Boris has been getting shit tonnes of hate, most of the times for no reasons ever (Cobra meetings, not being there because they're not for him?..) Even though I also liked Corbyn I find labour very hypocritical and like to throw blame. Also agree with everything you said +1
I fully give zero fucks. He made a mistake and tbh, theres probably about 20% of the population not abiding by it. The Press and the public are just being C*nts to him now. He made a mistake and it's been escalated due to his position. You're not going to get people booing because of Joe Blogs down the street seeing his girlfriend and kissing her (even though they're not the same household) so why is it such a problem when someone famous does it?
Literally not a problem IMO, I'm still going to be in lockdown just like everyone else and to be truthful, if you're one of the people that's going to go 'Well he did it so I'm going to do it' politely, you're a fucking moron. One man made a mistake, don't copy him...
Literally I don't get why people are getting so vexxed about what he did. He's lost his job for seeing his parents because he suspected symptoms and his wife was ill. Give the man a break - Jesus christ.
Literally not a problem IMO, I'm still going to be in lockdown just like everyone else and to be truthful, if you're one of the people that's going to go 'Well he did it so I'm going to do it' politely, you're a fucking moron. One man made a mistake, don't copy him...
Literally I don't get why people are getting so vexxed about what he did. He's lost his job for seeing his parents because he suspected symptoms and his wife was ill. Give the man a break - Jesus christ.
The Prime Minister and the Cabinet have concluded that Dominic Cummings acted within the lockdown guideines. Providing/organising the provision of childcare is essential.
Jenny Harris, Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England confirmed this 1 week prior to Dominic Cummings' trip to Durham:
“Clearly if you have adults unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance.”
There should be no further action, as there is no case to be resolved.
On the lockdown, I'm still following it to the letter and the spirit. However, a concerning study done by a high-class University found that under half of young people are abiding by the lockdown.
Jenny Harris, Deputy Chief Medical Officer for England confirmed this 1 week prior to Dominic Cummings' trip to Durham:
“Clearly if you have adults unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance.”
There should be no further action, as there is no case to be resolved.
On the lockdown, I'm still following it to the letter and the spirit. However, a concerning study done by a high-class University found that under half of young people are abiding by the lockdown.
I do agree. As my neighbor said, he can relate that as a parent, you want to do everything and anything you can to protect your child. That's what Cummings did.
However, there are hundreds or thousands of people who haven't seen their loved ones who've passes away in this time. He shouldn't be exempt. Perhaps this is why many people are fed up. Tomorrow is a bank holiday so I expect many people are gonna have a "fuck it" attitude and the beaches and parks will be filled. As welll as this,a millions have celebrated Eid this weekend, with Some breaking the lockdown rules to visit family and friends. This will lead to a spike in cases[DOUBLEPOST=1590365223][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yes, the problem is the irony. He is telling others to stay inside and isn't himself. What about his day trip to that castle??
With his status, comes great responsibility, whether he likes it or not. He will be judged for every move he makes. Theres no way of stopping that..[DOUBLEPOST=1590365288][/DOUBLEPOST]
Yes, sadly. I know many people who aren't gonna give a fuck anymore and are gonna go out and social, and enjoy this bank holiday Monday
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I never said that he shouldn't be criticized by any means. I just disagree with how far it's gone. I wouldn't be surprised if he offed himself if this continues... Yes there is irony but it's the idiotic people who go - fuck it lets copy him and do whatever, that fuck the rest of us over thanks all
real heckin deep
I never said that he shouldn't be criticized by any means. I just disagree with how far it's gone. I wouldn't be surprised if he offed himself if this continues... Yes there is irony but it's the idiotic people who go - fuck it lets copy him and do whatever, that fuck the rest of us over thanks all
Yep, totally agree. Just another question for ya: from what I've heard, people are sick of boris' and the Tories (whether they are right for this or not is a different debate), do you think labour will be elected next referendum? Conservatives seem to be losing a lot of the people's trust..
They may be losing trust but with lockdown, they've done what they have to do. I don't really follow politics a lot (I joke about voting for the party that is my favourite colour all the time) but I do know that Labour would have run near enough identical to what the tories have done for the UK currently - No one could predict what was going to happen. There should have been an earlier lockdown but that's now the past. They can't justifiably lose votes because they're telling people to stay at home - do the public want to die?
As much as I don't follow politics I just think rationally. Like, I don't understand why a party doesn't stop bullshitting about all these things they want to give the UK and just tell us straight and be like - here are the problems, I will try and fix them for us to have a better running country.
Nope. The general public are starting to realize that the news' take on the Tories are generally fake and left sided. Some include making assumptions and downright incorrect titles in news articles and titles on YouTube videos.
With the replacement of Corbyn in the labour party not being well liked, I don't see labour having hope in a few more years at least. Conservatives have done well during the pandemic because BJ's goal was to maintain the NHS workflow so it doesn't become overflown with COVID problems, which he has achieved well though achieving the world's highest in deaths for the country. I still blame the population for this because of the fact that ignorant people still go to the beaches, go on holiday, etc.
Would've been an earlier lockdown if WHO communicated truthfully. No matter what the conservs do, tell the truth or not, they're treated horribly despite who is in charge (for those who deserve it, imho James Cameron I hate, and Boris Johnson who don't.)
Bear in mind when I say this: I really like Corbyn. I think he generally wanted to help the country and to lead it. But he also needed a reality check when he promised free whatever. People started to go conserv when they knew that doesn't make sense in any economic land, and the younger audience followed him because most of them are entitled.
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