Question: would this would be considered scamming or not?

Do you believe this counts as a scam?

  • Yes

    Votes: 3 27.3%
  • No

    Votes: 8 72.7%

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Rza1337

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I had recently purchased LTC from a user I wont name at this point in time, and something just didn't sit right with me after it.

So the situation was that I was to pay $37 for 0.11 LTC, and this was agreed explicitly through the PM. The real situation was that I received 0.106846, meaning that I was shorted 0.003154 (Around $1 or something).

I want to make it extremely clear this isn't about the amount of LTC I was shorted, but the principle of the whole thing.

In case you're jumping to the obvious conclusion that it is probably just fees, and next time I should be way more specific about who is paying fees (despite the natural assumption that paying a premium already, and saying 0.11 for $37 suggests I would receive 0.11 at the end), I checked the transaction and the fees for the entire transaction didn't even total the amount, with the fees really coming to 0.001892 LTC, and this was a transaction that was part of 51 other outputs as seen here.

The amount I received plus the fees on the transaction did not total 0.11 LTC
https://live.blockcypher.com/ltc/tx...e61c7c4beeacc386acae387a4379fd0e12f51d09f950/
So, ignoring the fact it's such a small amount, do you think something like this amounts to a scam that the user expected to get away with since the amount lost was so small that no one would reasonably chase them up on this? Since this is something that I look at in percentages, it was the equivalent to a 3% price increase on top of the 8% premium already (at the time of purchase).

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Rza1337

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I dont think it would be considered as the fees is a general thing for everyone. You should of told the guy that you want the full amount and that he coveres the fees.

The amount I received plus the fees doesn't total 0.11 LTC

To be clear, I think this was sent from GDAX or something, so he probably didn't pay the fees anyway.
 

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I dont know man, talk to the guy, maybe you can work something out.

I don't care enough to bother. It's the principle of the whole thing that bothers me, and I wanted to know if other people shared my view on it or not
 

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Why would he not pay you 1 dollar more in LTC it's such a small amount...
 

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Why would he not pay you 1 dollar more in LTC it's such a small amount...

No idea. My reasoning is if this is how all transactions are handled, it's basically free money for nothing since no one will open a scam report over $1
 

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No idea. My reasoning is if this is how all transactions are handled, it's basically free money for nothing since no one will open a scam report over $1
well then if there is no reason other than that he doesn't want to give you the full amount then that is considered scamming even if you are scammed one cent. It just depends on how serious the scam tolerance is because I don't think MCM would ban over a 1 cent scam.
 

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well then if there is no reason other than that he doesn't want to give you the full amount then that is considered scamming even if you are scammed one cent. It just depends on how serious the scam tolerance is because I don't think MCM would ban over a 1 cent scam.

I don't think anyone is petty enough to make a 1 cent scam report either. It's just the principle of the whole thing.

Sidenote: your imgur in your sig is broken
 

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I don't think anyone is petty enough to make a 1 cent scam report either. It's just the principle of the whole thing.

Sidenote: your imgur in your sig is broken
I'd be curious what MCM would do about that lol

btw i know
 

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It’s scamming. Unless you don’t want to open a report.
 

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I don't think anyone is petty enough to make a 1 cent scam report either. It's just the principle of the whole thing.

Sidenote: your imgur in your sig is broken
you'd be surprised
 

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You also need to be careful that you and the other party are using the same $/LTC. If you're using difference sites, the exchange rate may be different. Even if you're using the same site, the price of coins can also change very rapidly. If you tell him $37, Monday that might be .10LTC but it might be 0.11LTC on Tuesday.
 

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You also need to be careful that you and the other party are using the same $/LTC. If you're using difference sites, the exchange rate may be different. Even if you're using the same site, the price of coins can also change very rapidly. If you tell him $37, Monday that might be .10LTC but it might be 0.11LTC on Tuesday.

The deal was done within minutes, and I went first, and it was specifically agreed $37 for 0.11LTC
 
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