Rep for people

[FisherGee]

So as you know I am a semi og account seller. I've done many deals with new or unreputavle members who were legit. They cannot rep my profile because they are new or unreputable. If we let them request from another user to do the rep for them it would solve a lot of problems. Or we could have some other alternative like a rep request form for unreputable or new members.

Thanks

Melon kid
Also if u made it for people with 20+ rep can only give it, it can't be faked

 

[Perotin]

Personally I do not agree but maybe there can be a system where u can apply for rep exchanging

So you'd value an arbitrary points system over a credible portfolio? What if I got all my friends to give me good rep, I could get at least 15 if I wanted to.

 

[Fire]

Get more staff then xD

Its not that easy. Staff are hand picked, Mick has to be absolutly sure that person is going to be trustworthy, and wont abuse their position. He cant just pick a few people and give them staff. A staff member could cause alot of damage, not just to the forum but to the reputation of the staff team. If that person exit scams, it looks bad on Mick and the other staff. People need to know they can be trusted. Its not as simple as just getting more staff.

 

[Jerry]

So you'd value an arbitrary points system over a credible portfolio? What if I got all my friends to give me good rep, I could get at least 15 if I wanted to.

The rep system has one nice feature which is that it allows users to rate their experience with a user, for example they're toxic or back out of deals. This is the only thing that I personally use the rep system to judge. I do agree that a portfolio or detailed vouches do provide a better perspective on how 'reputable' a user is.

That word is very misused on this forum in my opinion which is why I used apostrophes.

 

[FisherGee]

Its not that easy. Staff are hand picked, Mick has to be absolutly sure that person is going to be trustworthy, and wont abuse their position. He cant just pick a few people and give them staff. A staff member could cause alot of damage, not just to the forum but to the reputation of the staff team. If that person exit scams, it looks bad on Mick and the other staff. People need to know they can be trusted. Its not as simple as just getting most staff.

I understand.

 

[dylanez]

really you can give someone rep if you have no rep? That's bs. I had no rep and when I bought my first account on here I could give rep.

edit: can't*

 

[Perotin]

The rep system has one nice feature which is that it allows users to rate their experience with a user, for example they're toxic or back out of deals. This is the only thing that I personally use the rep system to judge. I do agree that a portfolio or detailed vouches do provide a better perspective on how 'reputable' a user is.

That word is very misused on this forum in my opinion which is why I used apostrophes.

It is the only feature that the rep system has, and I agree, use the rep system to judge user experience and / or customer service but nothing else.

 

[ZACK]

Okay, let me explain why this won't work.
We'll either have :

• Tons of Banned Members contact each other, all to boost their reputation in order to scam.
• Tons of new members faking deals, or having their friends PM them in order to look like a deal was actually made.
• Reputable members trying to boost their reputation and being believed just because they're not new.

Now, in order for this to work, we would need staff to check the reports.

1. Staff are busy enough
2. We don't have too many staff members

Now, the solution to this would be have more staff members, which would cause these issues :
- New staff members, with less experience. This would mean more mistakes and more toxicity from the community.
- New staff members making up their own rules, and getting involved in reports other than these ones.
- Mick would actually have to recruit more, which is alot more work.

If that isn't enough, I'll throw an example out there.
Bob has 40 reputation. He is trusted and regularly does $100+ deals.
One day, Bob fakes some reputation and staff believe it, within a week, he has 50 reputation. +10 in a week, all for "$100+ deals" would mean more exit scams, and more money loss.

This would be an issue for :
- More Reports
- More work for M6
- More false accusations


I hope this is enough to show my reasons for the disagreement,
~ Zack.

 

[Ivain]

If you made 2 new accounts with 0 rep then you can't rep yourself because you wouldn't have ever at least 20 lmao. Read carefully

No, but what you CAN do is quickly farm rep by giving away free stuff or doing simple services/deals for a few $ apiece. That's how 90% of the 50+ rep people can give rep.

Also, rep quality is far more important than rep quantity. I've been on this site for years, could be said to be one of the most reputable members on here not counting the physical rep, yet with that limit I would be unable to give others reputation.

 

[None]

Just let them leave a vouch on your profile, why is everyone so obsessed with rep anyway

 

[Ivain]

Just let them leave a vouch on your profile, why is everyone so obsessed with rep anyway

because it means people get to count numbers again, and having higher numbers than everyone else in anything remotely relevant is the wet dream of about 60% of the community.

 

[EpicFooF]

No matter how much rep you have. There is still nothing stopping you inspect element a paypal screenshot, and create another account and have a convo with yourself on skype or discord to screenshot too. Or even talk to yourself via PM here, then screenshot that.

There is nothing to stop anyone from killing, stealing, and from anything else. It is just to reduce the amount of fake reputation. Nothing can stop people from doing disallowed things.

 

[Mick]

Okay, let me explain why this won't work.
We'll either have :

• Tons of Banned Members contact each other, all to boost their reputation in order to scam.
• Tons of new members faking deals, or having their friends PM them in order to look like a deal was actually made.
• Reputable members trying to boost their reputation and being believed just because they're not new.

Now, in order for this to work, we would need staff to check the reports.

1. Staff are busy enough
2. We don't have too many staff members

Now, the solution to this would be have more staff members, which would cause these issues :
- New staff members, with less experience. This would mean more mistakes and more toxicity from the community.
- New staff members making up their own rules, and getting involved in reports other than these ones.
- Mick would actually have to recruit more, which is alot more work.

If that isn't enough, I'll throw an example out there.
Bob has 40 reputation. He is trusted and regularly does $100+ deals.
One day, Bob fakes some reputation and staff believe it, within a week, he has 50 reputation. +10 in a week, all for "$100+ deals" would mean more exit scams, and more money loss.

This would be an issue for :
- More Reports
- More work for M6
- More false accusations


I hope this is enough to show my reasons for the disagreement,
~ Zack.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.