Rep System Moderator

[TwistedIllusion]

We need to hire someone to go through the reps everyday and remove the incorrect negative reps. There are hundreds of incorrect, negative reputations that never get taken out, even though they are obviously false, such as "he laughed at someone getting scammed"... (real example)

Just hire a moderator to go through these everyday. And if someone already is, they need to be fired, as they are doing a terrible job of it.

 

[SheepeyDarkness]

Agreed, I also think people need proof for these. I can't imagine that much neg reps coming in per day that it isn't manageable.

 

[TwistedIllusion]

Yes, Asursion is a fine example of a neg rep that was APPROVED, that is absolute bullshit.

 

[Tahsin]

Just as a side note, I know from previous experience that if you report an obvious negative rep, it gets removed so surely this is a bit pointless to do as you can simply just report the neg rep?

 

[TwistedIllusion]

In all honesty, ever since adding the reputation system there has always been abuse of it. Just like any other system and anything they could ever implement. However, with such a system in place, even if they do get a Reputation Moderator, people will complain about their reputation being removed falsely or not getting removed. No matter what they do to try and fix people abusing the system, it's impossible to completely fix something like this and it will always get abused. A Reputation Moderator might help resolve a few more unresolved reputation disputes, but overall wouldn't help that much. The way they have it right now by people reporting the reputation is probably the best way.

It would be much better to have it falsely removed than it staying there forever, in my opinion.

 

[Ajdin]

Why hire rep moderators? Regular moderators can do this too? It's just a matter of being active.

 

[MTG]

Regular moderators

Spoiler

do you want to wait 2 weeks or more for one of your reps to be even seen? thats the point regular moderators are very busy with other stuff or thats what they say, lol

 

[Ajdin]

Spoiler

do you want to wait 2 weeks or more for one of your reps to be even seen? thats the point regular moderators are very busy with other stuff or thats what they say, lol

Then hire more moderators? I'd rather have more moderators which can deal with everything instead of just reputation.

Moderators would also most likely have more access then "Rep Moderators" so they'd be able to get more information regarding a specific issue by looking into specific logs and whatnot.

 

[MTG]

Then hire more moderators? I'd rather have more moderators which can deal with everything instead of just reputation.

Moderators would also most likely have more access then "Rep Moderators" so they'd be able to get more information regarding a specific issue by looking into specific logs and whatnot.

Mick will choose someone he likes/loves or someone that sucks his dick not someone who can do the job lol

 

[Ajdin]

Mick will choose someone he likes/loves or someone that sucks his dick not someone who can do the job lol

That's what you think. The staff team is chosen very well. The problem with picking staff is that, no matter what rank, the person is capable of ruining the reputation for the whole staff team. Your post also had nothing to do with my response. There's literally no good reason to make someone "rep moderator" instead of moderator. You could argue that tasks could be split up more if "rep moderator" is introduced but I don't think there's need for it. The forum doesn't have that much reports and things to deal with to have a whole government system behind it. I feel like the moderators simply don't like dealing with "rep reports" due to the system that's in place. I personally think(from my experience of being staff on this forum) that there's not enough logging/permissions for them to be able to properly investigate a case.

Also, if I remember correctly, rep wasn't an issue back when I managed the forum. The rules were very clear and fair. Sure some members might've been complaining but that's simply because the system allowed legit negative reputations to happen. Right now, you can get a reputation removed for the smallest bit which removes the whole purpose and legitimacy of the system. I personally don't deem it trustworthy anymore. It's very unfair and I feel like 0 thought is being put into how they are being handled at the moment.

Want to know what I think? I think you're lacking brain cells because I'm not sure if you've noticed that MC-Market has had a very consistent and good staff team for the past year. You joined in September last year and only 1 new member was added to the staff team since then so for you to know that Mick picks people who suck his dick seems very blatant and plain stupid.

 

[MTG]

Woah your going hardcore dont do that on me

That's what you think.

Exactly.

The staff team is chosen very well. The problem with picking staff is that, no matter what rank, the person is capable of ruining the reputation for the whole staff team.

I can tell they re very well chosen from my experience *cough*, I dont see what are you trying to say, you first say

Then hire more moderators?

then now your saying if they hire more moderators it will ruin it more.

Your post also had nothing to do with my response. There's literally no good reason to make someone "rep moderator" instead of moderator. You could argue that tasks could be split up more if "rep moderator" is introduced but I don't think there's need for it.

It did, and good reason for that is most of moderators are busy with other reports and shit in real life, why cant they make someone specific for something, even someone from the current staff.

The forum doesn't have that much reports and things to deal with to have a whole government system behind it.

Really, you think a forum that gets more than 50k visitors per day doesnt have any reports or problem to be dealt with? I mean, yeah you used to manage the site and you probably know more than me, but Im talking about my personal experience, my support requests takes lots of time like %80 of them to even have a response, so if there wasnt much reports and im pretty sure I shouldnt be waiting long.

I feel like the moderators simply don't like dealing with "rep reports" due to the system that's in place. I personally think(from my experience of being staff on this forum) that there's not enough logging/permissions for them to be able to properly investigate a case.

Then, thats micks problem not ours, if the staff doesnt like doing there jobs, then there shouldnt be staff without any excuses.

Also, if I remember correctly, rep wasn't an issue back when I managed the forum. The rules were very clear and fair. Sure some members might've been complaining but that's simply because the system allowed legit negative reputations to happen.

Good for you then, mr manager, If the rules have changed to the worse as you saying then thats another problem from mick.

Right now, you can get a reputation removed for the smallest bit which removes the whole purpose and legitimacy of the system.

Thats not true actually, if someone REPs you for being toxic, it will not be removed which shows the failure of the system, if someone can -rep you for simply not being nice to him or someone thats the real removal of legitimacy of the system.

I personally don't deem it trustworthy anymore. It's very unfair and I feel like 0 thought is being put into how they are being handled at the moment.

I definitely gotta agree.

Want to know what I think? I think you're lacking brain cells

If your gonna start using that langauge then dont discuss with me, yes some times I sound like an asshole if I discuss with someone but thats not what I really mean, and yes Im definitely lack brain cells, if i can write a full post discussing all your points.

I'm not sure if you've noticed that MC-Market has had a very consistent and good staff team for the past year. You joined in September last year and only 1 new member was added to the staff team since then so for you to know that Mick picks people who suck his dick seems very blatant and plain stupid.

Thats my thoughts and ideas, from the current staff, I could tell how they got their jobs, a lot of them definitly earned it but some didnt, or thats what I think at least, didnt mean that sentence in a wrong way, but how i see mick talks and does his actions, i can definitely still agree with what I said.

 

[Mick]

There's been a dozen suggestions for this and although it isn't planned to happen right now, depending on how our future updates go I will consider it.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.