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I know bosny likes to use maintained addons so here you go:
https://brivium.com/resources/advanced-reputation-system.281/

I am here to present my initiative which will make this reputation system work well:

Why we need this:

MCM is primarily a marketplace forum. It is not focused on discussion. Therefore, we should use some sort of points system to determine the credibility of a seller.

Proposal:
The reputation points would be shown below ratings. Users could give other users reputation by cilcking on it and giving them either positive or negative reputation.

Preventing abuse:
Users can be limited to the amount of reps per day they can give. Let's say, 5 reps per day.

Each user Premium or Supreme would be able to give +1/+0/-1.
Staff would be able to give from +3 to -3.
Admins would be able to give from +10 to -10.

This will prevent abuse, so that people can't make multiple accounts and rep people.

Policies/rules:
We can also implement policies to prevent abuse.

Modification (Rep Kill):
Basically, rep killing would be an efficient way to punish a user for abusing it. This would require a modification. This would mean that all of a user's positive reputation would be removed permanently.

Implement policies of what is considered abuse. False scammer reps is a good example, however what is determined abuse will be fully up to staff.

Potential problems fixed:
Problem: People will ask for rep. What should we do?
Solution: Simple. Implement extremely strict policies which will deter people from doing this.

Problem: There's nothing we can do about people asking for it via skype and other off-site networks.
Solution: True, but they can still be punished if they provide enough evidence.


This is a WIP, I will keep updating it. Ajdin, I hope you take this into consideration in at least some way. It's a good idea and this site needs a reputation system as such. Thanks.
 
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This gets abused. It turns into a rep4rep system and there's no way to counter it.
 

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Basically what Jake said,
Also it's pretty much to late in the site to add this.
If this was implemented when the site first was made, I could see this working.
 

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We really shouldn't introduce massive change to the site. We've seen the consequences of the reaction system and shouldn't touch these sorts of things. We should instead focus our attention on maintaining stability on the forums and building off what has already been created. It's far too late in the sites lifespan to reform to a Hack Forums Repuation system. I came to McM because I liked the system, if I wanted a hack forums system I'd use hack forums.
 
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What would happen to our current reactions score.
 

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So wait. Basically [Censored]' system -+ "repfuck"
 

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Or we could use the reputation system we already have in place.
There really isn't one currently in the place. No, the reactions system is not a reputation system. If you use it as one, that's your business. But it's not, in all reality.
 

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There really isn't one currently in the place. No, the reactions system is not a reputation system. If you use it as one, that's your business. But it's not, in all reality.
By default it is supposed to be, but you guys keep switching things around in order to lure people away from it even though it works fine.
 

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By default it is supposed to be, but you guys keep switching things around in order to lure people away from it even though it works fine.
No, it's not. It's a sort of forum reputation system, I guess, but it's not a marketplace reputation system, which is what is really what is being suggested here. Am I right, Tulip?

Anyway, I'm not counting on anything being implemented any time soon, so I think you'll be fine.
 

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No, it's not. It's a sort of forum reputation system, I guess, but it's not a marketplace reputation system, which is what is really what is being suggested here. Am I right, Tulip?

Anyway, I'm not counting on anything being implemented any time soon, so I think you'll be fine.
As much as we say that ratings are not reputation, let's be honest, a lot of people use it as such. If I have +1500 ratings and someone else has +200 ratings, I'm going to look more trustworthy. Bottom line. Although, you are right. It's not meant to be a full fledged reputation system.
 
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As much as we say that ratings are not reputation, let's be honest, a lot of people use it as such. If I have +1500 ratings and someone else has +200 ratings, I'm going to look more trustworthy. Bottom line. Although, you are right. It's not meant to be a full fledged reputation system.
I know people use it as such. However, that doesn't make it so and I refuse to consider a reputation system. At most, maybe a forum reputation system, like I said, but it is far from a marketplace reputation system. In my opinion, you'd be stupid to use the reaction count as a way to meassure reputation.

I mean, just compare my reaction count to yours, Tulip. You have twice as many reactions. Does that make you two times more reputable? This is why it shouldn't be even considered a reputation system, imo, and I will never call it one. Not a marketplace one anyway.
 

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I know people use it as such. However, that doesn't make it so and I refuse to consider a reputation system. At most, maybe a forum reputation system, like I said, but it is far from a marketplace reputation system. In my opinion, you'd be stupid to use the reaction count as a way to meassure reputation.

I mean, just compare my reaction count to yours, Tulip. You have twice as many reactions. Does that make you two times more reputable? This is why it shouldn't be even considered a reputation system, imo, and I will never call it one. Not a marketplace one anyway.[DOUBLEPOST=1463845743][/DOUBLEPOST]
I know people use it as such. However, that doesn't make it so and I refuse to consider a reputation system. At most, maybe a forum reputation system, like I said, but it is far from a marketplace reputation system. In my opinion, you'd be stupid to use the reaction count as a way to meassure reputation.

I mean, just compare my reaction count to yours, Tulip. You have twice as many reactions. Does that make you two times more reputable? This is why it shouldn't be even considered a reputation system, imo, and I will never call it one. Not a marketplace one anyway.
It wouldn't because you're a staff member.
 
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It wouldn't because you're a staff member.
That wasn't my point.

Ultimately, I see a reputation as more than a number. As a matter of fact, I don't see it much as a number at all.

We all have a reputation. It's all about if our reputation is good or not. Sure, you can be more reputable if more people know you, but that's only good when those people have good things to say, right?

If we were to implement any kind of true reputation system, which I doubt will happen any time soon, if at all, would be a system where you can leave positive or negative feedback on a user. Don't even make numbers part of it, because it all reality, they are unimportant. It's all about the feedback you actually get.

Hell, a system isn't even really needed for that. We've got profile posts! Though, a tab on your profile that would allow people to post such feedback would be nice. Yeah, it can be faked, but so can a lot in this world. It's up to you to defend yourself and prove it's fake.

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As much as we say that ratings are not reputation, let's be honest, a lot of people use it as such. If I have +1500 ratings and someone else has +200 ratings, I'm going to look more trustworthy. Bottom line. Although, you are right. It's not meant to be a full fledged reputation system.
As hard as it is to accept, the fact is that the more ratings you have the less likely it is that you are going to scam. Feel free to browse the banned users list and count how many were banned for scamming with less than 200 ratings, and how many were banned with over 1000.
 

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As hard as it is to accept, the fact is that the more ratings you have the less likely it is that you are going to scam. Feel free to browse the banned users list and count how many were banned for scamming with less than 200 ratings, and how many were banned with over 1000.
That may be true, but that doesn't mean anything. That doesn't make people with more reactions more "reputable", in my opinion.
 

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That may be true, but that doesn't mean anything. That doesn't make people with more reactions more "reputable", in my opinion.
It kinda does. Reputable means in how legit they are with doing a deal.
 
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