Requesting Computer HELP! [No trolls]

[ImTri]

Don't need people replying with jokes, I need serious help and I have no time for immaturity.

How much FPS will each get?

 

[Jake]

I'd recommend building your own computer with custom parts.
http://www.newegg.com/ is good, but you have many options.

 

[ImTri]

I'd recommend building your own computer with custom parts.
http://www.newegg.com/ is good, but you have many options.

I don't know how to build computers, I am afraid I'll mess something up. I have checked out newegg and pcpartpicker and they're pretty cheap, but I also don't want to buy like a crap ton of parts, wait for them to come, etc..

 

[ImTri]

bump Jack

 

[Ammar T]

Don't need people replying with jokes, I need serious help and I have no time for immaturity.

How much FPS will each get?

Personally, I would recommend none of these. They don't mention any of the key stats that affect gaming performance such as the GPU or the type of hard drive installed. I would recommend this system if any:
http://www.ebuyer.com/720973-chillblast-fusion-raider-gaming-pc-cbfusraider

 

[Jack]

I would highly avoid prebuilts (especially ones being sold on eBay).

Although it sounds like they have decent CPUs and RAM (4.2GHz this, 16GB that), they are still only ~$500, meaning they are going to have a crappy:
Case
Motherboard
Harddrive
Video card (critical if you want good gaming)
Cooling
Power supply
Memory speed (although it's 8GB or 16GB, it's probably only 1333MHz)
CPU (despite the high clock speed)

I mean you're looking for a gaming PC, so you want to game on it right?

The first one you linked has a dedicated video card (Radeon HD 8470D):
First, look at the stats (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+8470D)
It's honestly a joke.

I found a video with gameplay of that card:
He's playing on 720P with all settings turned down and still not even getting 25 FPS in CS:GO ()
Minecraft nowadays (depending on render distance and graphic settings) is even more intensive than CS:GO, so it's your choice (looks bad runs bad, or looks good but can't even walk).

The second and third ones you linked have "integrated" graphics, meaning there is no dedicated video card (probably still better than the above one though).
On integrated graphics don't expect to play anything fancy or graphical.

Long story short, the computers posted are very unbalanced.
90% of the price is just CPU and RAM, which is what most people think makes a computer powerful, but if you even want to be able to game just a little bit you need a dedicated video card.
Spend at least $200 on it, I would recommend the GTX 960 (~$175) as it's the best price/performance right now and can run most games 1080P @ ~60FPS.

So if you want, get one of those and also buy a GTX 960 (or some of them seem to have 'upgrade packages' you can choose).

You may also want to consider getting an SSD if you want better load and boot times.

Tl;dr - If you buy any of those computers without upgrading them, the only games you will be able to play at 1080P @ ~60FPS are Minesweeper and Solitaire.

 

[Ammar T]

I would highly avoid prebuilts (especially ones being sold on eBay).

Although it sounds like they have decent CPUs and RAM (4.2GHz this, 16GB that), they are still only ~$500, meaning they are going to have a crappy:
Case
Motherboard
Harddrive
Video card (critical if you want good gaming)
Cooling
Power supply
Memory speed (although it's 8GB or 16GB, it's probably only 1333MHz)
CPU (despite the high clock speed)

I mean you're looking for a gaming PC, so you want to game on it right?

The first one you linked has a dedicated video card (Radeon HD 8470D):
First, look at the stats (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+8470D)
It's honestly a joke.

I found a video with gameplay of that card:
He's playing on 720P with all settings turned down and still not even getting 25 FPS in CS:GO ()
Minecraft nowadays (depending on render distance and graphic settings) is even more intensive than CS:GO, so it's your choice (looks bad runs bad, or looks good but can't even walk).

The second and third ones you linked have "integrated" graphics, meaning there is no dedicated video card (probably still better than the above one though).
On integrated graphics don't expect to play anything fancy or graphical.

Long story short, the computers posted are very unbalanced.
90% of the price is just CPU and RAM, which is what most people think makes a computer powerful, but if you even want to be able to game just a little bit you need a dedicated video card.
Spend at least $200 on it, I would recommend the GTX 960 (~$175) as it's the best price/performance right now and can run most games 1080P @ ~60FPS.

So if you want, get one of those and also buy a GTX 960 (or some of them seem to have 'upgrade packages' you can choose).

You may also want to consider getting an SSD if you want better load and boot times.

Tl;dr - If you buy any of those computers without upgrading them, the only games you will be able to play at 1080P @ ~60FPS are Minesweeper and Solitaire.

Couldn't have phrased it better myself Jack

 

[ImTri]

I would highly avoid prebuilts (especially ones being sold on eBay).

Although it sounds like they have decent CPUs and RAM (4.2GHz this, 16GB that), they are still only ~$500, meaning they are going to have a crappy:
Case
Motherboard
Harddrive
Video card (critical if you want good gaming)
Cooling
Power supply
Memory speed (although it's 8GB or 16GB, it's probably only 1333MHz)
CPU (despite the high clock speed)

I mean you're looking for a gaming PC, so you want to game on it right?

The first one you linked has a dedicated video card (Radeon HD 8470D):
First, look at the stats (http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=Radeon+HD+8470D)
It's honestly a joke.

I found a video with gameplay of that card:
He's playing on 720P with all settings turned down and still not even getting 25 FPS in CS:GO ()
Minecraft nowadays (depending on render distance and graphic settings) is even more intensive than CS:GO, so it's your choice (looks bad runs bad, or looks good but can't even walk).

The second and third ones you linked have "integrated" graphics, meaning there is no dedicated video card (probably still better than the above one though).
On integrated graphics don't expect to play anything fancy or graphical.

Long story short, the computers posted are very unbalanced.
90% of the price is just CPU and RAM, which is what most people think makes a computer powerful, but if you even want to be able to game just a little bit you need a dedicated video card.
Spend at least $200 on it, I would recommend the GTX 960 (~$175) as it's the best price/performance right now and can run most games 1080P @ ~60FPS.

So if you want, get one of those and also buy a GTX 960 (or some of them seem to have 'upgrade packages' you can choose).

You may also want to consider getting an SSD if you want better load and boot times.

Tl;dr - If you buy any of those computers without upgrading them, the only games you will be able to play at 1080P @ ~60FPS are Minesweeper and Solitaire.

Thanks! Is it hard to build a computer? I have no knowledge of it, will I mess it up? xD

 

[Ammar T]

Thanks! Is it hard to build a computer? I have no knowledge of it, will I mess it up? xD

If you go on PCPartPicker, it shows whether parts are compatible. If you're gonna buy your own parts, then it might be a bit difficult at first but it's not really difficult.

 

[Jxor]

I don't know much about computers, but mines fast.

 

[ImTri]

I don't know much about computers, but mines fast.

How much was it[DOUBLEPOST=1444576693,1444576576][/DOUBLEPOST]trying to figure out which one to get
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sJpK99 (1)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/36C8gs (2)
Jack

 

[Jxor]

Ehh, I say it was overpriced, gave $800 for monitor and computer itself with a 2-3 year warranty.

 

[Loupe Settlement]

This thread is great! I'm looking to upgrade beyond potato status myself. Thanks for the great responses, and thanks for for the post OP.

 

[Ammar T]

This thread is great! I'm looking to upgrade beyond potato status myself. Thanks for the great responses, and thanks for for the post OP.

It's fine

 

[Loupe Settlement]

It's fine

My PC is so old, I'm ashamed to even tell anyone what the operating system is. I lost my good PC in a fire.

 

[Ammar T]

My PC is so old, I'm ashamed to even tell anyone what the operating system is. I lost my good PC in a fire.

That's grim :\

 

[kitcat]

I didn't know how either, youtube helps a lot. And, don't buy those, you can get a better computer on pcpartpicker or newegg. Just buy all the parts

Yeah, agreed. I'm probably going to build my own around December, its cheaper and makes for a great project.

 

[Ammar T]

Yeah, agreed. I'm probably going to build my own around December, its cheaper and makes for a great project.

Are you gonna be buying the parts or using a site?

 

[Loupe Settlement]

That's grim :\

It was just one room, but it killed some cool things (and expensive ones): my PC, my iPad 4, and an antique desk. Oh well. . .