Scammers Can Redeem Themselves?

[Astronaut1]

Hello there all,

You may all have your point of view on this suggestion, I hope I manage to persuade you.

So basically my idea was simple, once your get banned there should be the reason you're banned in addition to there being a gui.

The contents of the gui should be double the amount they exit scammed, or the value for the product. For minecraft accounts etc, we simply have Doge who can appraise them well and the idea flows etc.

I believe the scammer should pay double and further on the gui, it has a locked email address of the person who got scammed so they can't bypass this system.

In addition the way they will be unbanned is simple. When you pay for a resource and the payment is sent it unlocks a download, well if they were to do similar but to perform a command suggest as un banning the user it could work.

I have also decided to look from different point of views, and I understand that people can charge back and that is a significant factor.

I also agree with the statement, 'Once a scammer always a scammer.' However this option should only be valid for deals below or $10, and for those who have committed like multiple accounts in the past I believe staff should charge a reasonable fee that goes to Mick for them to be unbanned.

I also think that they should submit the reason for there ban and someone such as an active chat mod etc, should be give the rights to view through the reasons as to why they're appealing etc and only they have the opportunity to accept the payment in addition to the request.

Thank you all for your opinion,
Astronaut

 

[Astronaut1]

+1 I like this !

Thank you!

 

[Sparko]

If this gets approved a common scenario could be: Someone exit scams, decides to go back to MCM so they pay the unban fee. They decide to dick around the forums for a few weeks and then scam more people, chargeback the fee, get banned again but with heavier pockets this time. Perhaps for certain bans with non-intentional ban reasons (Aedan) this could be used but it's hard to do it without people screaming "BIASED" or "FAVORITISM".

 

[Astronaut1]

If this gets approved a common scenario could be: Someone exit scams, decides to go back to MCM so they pay the unban fee. They decide to dick around the forums for a few weeks and then scam more people, chargeback the fee, get banned again but with heavier pockets this time. Perhaps for certain bans with non-intentional ban reasons (Aedan) this could be used but it's hard to do it without people screaming "BIASED" or "FAVORITISM".

That's very true, I appreciate your opinion and your constructed response!

 

[Ivain]

No. Money should not e a thing for 'redeeming' yourself. Why?
Edit: didnt read properly, too early in the morning. Anyway, if they first scammed for $10, they'll now just scam for $500 or so as 'revenge' for their first ban.

 

[William]

Once a scammer always a scammer! -1

 

[Cyprus]

Once a scammer always a scammer.

 

[Kram]

Well, I don't think all scams should have the option to redeem themselves. There are some that are "scammed" but really didn't want to. I don't know how to explain it but I have seen instances like it. Let's say they failed to do something because so and so happened and then they didn't have the money to refund them. The user really didn't want to be banned but in the end had to be banned.
They should have the option to redeem themselves. At the same time, there are people that scammed multiple people and got away with a lot of money. These people will probably do the same thing again.
This part may be up for debate but I think when M6Gaming closes a scam report and the user is banned I think he should be able to decide if the user is someone who can redeem themselves or not.
I hope what I said makes sense.

 

[Astronaut1]

No. Money should not e a thing for 'redeeming' yourself. Why?
Edit: didnt read properly, too early in the morning. Anyway, if they first scammed for $10, they'll now just scam for $500 or so as 'revenge' for their first ban.

Yeah I can see where you are coming from, thank you for your response I appreciate it!

 

[Vilsike]

I agree with the "Once a scammer always a scammer" idea. There are people that might be unbanned unfairly, and sadly there's really no way to dispute that.

This method though doesn't seem like a good fit for MCM. I mean, it is profiting off of someone's loss?

 

[Astronaut1]

Well, I don't think all scams should have the option to redeem themselves. There are some that are "scammed" but really didn't want to. I don't know how to explain it but I have seen instances like it. Let's say they failed to do something because so and so happened and then they didn't have the money to refund them. The user really didn't want to be banned but in the end had to be banned.
They should have the option to redeem themselves. At the same time, there are people that scammed multiple people and got away with a lot of money. These people will probably do the same thing again.
This part may be up for debate but I think when M6Gaming closes a scam report and the user is banned I think he should be able to decide if the user is someone who can redeem themselves or not.
I hope what I said makes sense.

I personally agree with everything you have said here, thank you for your well constructed response![DOUBLEPOST=1496045444][/DOUBLEPOST]

I understand what you're saying but do you really want people in the community that have had previous for scamming. I wouldn't as I would never feel like any of my deals would be safe. If this is a possibility, you would need to add like a tag to say that the user has been previously banned or something.

Exactly, we need to question ourselves on whether or not we are willing to be accepting, I appreciate the response thank you![DOUBLEPOST=1496045552][/DOUBLEPOST]

I agree with the "Once a scammer always a scammer" idea. There are people that might be unbanned unfairly, and sadly there's really no way to dispute that.

This method though doesn't seem like a good fit for MCM. I mean, it is profiting off of someone's loss?

Yeah that's true, however if you read carefully users who have multi accounted in the pat would have to endure this, as due to the time they were banned it was anot offense so it's most likely considered a fine.

 

[Astronaut1]

I like the idea that they have to pay 'bail'. Once banned you should have the option to pay double the amount you scammed to get unbanned.

That's exactly what I have said throughout the thread, ensure you have read all the thread.[DOUBLEPOST=1496045717][/DOUBLEPOST]

Once a scammer always a scammer! -1

Stated I am accepting of others opinion, thank you for your response.