Social Media Platform - Fight cancel culture

[Gunny]

Better, more official looking thread to come. Will link it here.

Howdy y'all,

Spoiler: Basic overview thus far

The project is a hybrid between two current platforms plus some uniqueness sprinkled in. Snapchat and Twitter are the two main inspirations. We love the idea of "microblogging" your opinion. Everyone has one and everyone's should be heard. The problem is that you can say things in the heat of the moment and forget. This can lead to being canceled and unnecessary drama. Our project would aim to stop this. All user posts would be deleted within a specific period of time, thus leaving no record. Some say sure, but people will screenshot it. This is true, however, there is no official record. It'll be as credible as a dev consoles edited Twitter screenshot. In addition, we will have other features to enhance user experience and bring our own flavor.

Informal overview -
So recently been talking with a group of friends and came up with the idea to make a social media platform that fights cancel culture (mcm clickbait, not the main idea of the platform) and provides a safe environment to verbalize your thoughts, opinions, to rant, or to vent without something haunting you years later. We have a few ideas and are open to more, so if you have something comment below or send me a PM. Also open to names. Something that has to due with disappearing messages.

Would users of Mc-Market be interested in such a platform?
Actual google forms feedback. Data collected will be for my eyes only, but it's pretty impersonal.
- https://forms.gle/hXSDNim7VKVfF86T7

Thanks,
- Gunny

Replies and concerns.

Spoiler: My reply to Jasmine, more explaining! c:

Very true. It's a serious issue. The reason why this initially came up within my friend group is one of us being canceled. He said something stupid in 2012 and his local college found it and expelled him. To be fair to them, it was a really dumb, yet sarcastic, joke that could be taken offensively. However, such an extreme punishment is ridiculous imo.

Anywho, it most likely isn't going to be marketed as "anti-cancel culture" just good mcm clickbait. While we would certainly wouldn't condone those trying to cancel with consequences for the users, we can't stop human nature. People's opinions will differ. Our aim is to rather prevent the content from being able to be used as cancelable content in the first place. Methods for this include making photos of the media difficult to obtain (accessable only through devices, blocking both web and popular emulators, disabling native screenshots, and so forth), user content being purged from all records after a certain period of time, and more to come. Ideas are also welcome.

PS. We also plan, unlike other platforms, to not cater content towards users opinions. They are welcome to follow their own users and tags, but we want to expose people to new ideas. The main page will include not only the tags and users they follow but also additionally whatever other posts have happened based on creation date. Also! Upon registration and the settings, you have the option to enable a opposing views feature. This creates a separate tag/page that has opposing content to the users view on which we encourage them to take a look at the posts. However, while doing this, it hides the name and tags and disables liking, sharing, and commenting on the place.

Word scramble complete. Thanks for reading

Spoiler: My reply to Ally and others on accountability of users

To get started, no, we aren't removing accountability for users. That doesn't make sense. Much like any other media platform, there would be strict guidelines and filters for content. There is no way anything on the clearnet (expect maybe 4chan, gosh knows what happens there...) doesn't have some form of restriction on speech. It isn't like we are telling people they can be abusive, hurtful, or anything. All posts would be scanned for keywords and alternative sayings (ie $h1t). If it gets flagged, it would go under for manual review. If found against our policies, their account would be terminated. If found illegal, the post and meta data will be reported to proper authorities and put in long-storage for legal purposes. We are rather aiming to prevent users from having a poorly timed comment haunt them for years. We are aiming to allow a platform for everyone to share their opinion on whatever matters they wish. Not release accountability for hurtful or harmful content.

With scale we are looking at operating in the first couple years, human moderation of content is feasible.


Thanks for the interest. I completely agree. Removing accountability for people isn't a good idea. As an eagle scout, I believe accountability is one of the most important character traits. Our aim isn't to remove all accountability from users. Their name and handle will still appear on content they post and they will need to follow strict guidelines. I also like the idea of having to cite sources for content. That will definitely be implemented for anything deemed factual. However, not all opinions are factually based. I know for one that vanilla ice cream is a flavor (best one at that).


Our project doesn't want to compete on such a level nor do we have the capabilities of such. Our project is more of an experiment and proof-of-concept test. It isn't something we are looking to make money off of. We will still need to monitize to cover hardware, network, and small advertising costs but that's it. Thanks for the concern. We appreciate it. :tup:

Spoiler: My reply to Scroll32, cancel culture, accountability, and post length.

Thanks for the questions. Being accountable for your actions is indeed important, and when it brings into question others, even more so. Harmful and abusive content will be dealt with according, but at the same time, I personally believe that at some point, people want a place to vent, to rant, and destress themselves by putting your words into the world. I believe that verbalizing (virtually or not) your thoughts, emotions, and opinions is healthy. The problem is that when you post to most main-stream media, it stays there, indefinitely. The platform I wish to experiment with would allow you to rant about something and not have it haunt you years later. Hope this helps clear that up a little. Please know that I am writing these on my phone with a severe lack of sleep so I may not be explaining my point as effectively and as concisely as I wished to.

As for the post-time, we are currently looking at seven days, but will be adjusting when we can release a beta (gonna be a bit... :c). We believe that seven days allows enough time for user engagement while still being a short enough timespan.

Thanks, I really appreciate it. Feedback is awesome!

Spoiler: Reply to both Christaf and Alistair F., about accountability, legal issues, toxicity, and more.

Strong emotions :tup:
I said what I said because I believe it to be true. While the scale of the platform we are currently projecting, we won't have to worry about those extremes. Nor are we trying to compete with huge names. That's a ridiculous notion and a horrible idea in most senses. That being said, any media platform has to be ready for legal issues, as we are.

Scanning our platform for members posting hurtful or harmful material isn't going to have a profanity filter, but rather one for slurs, violent messages, and so forth. We have a many concerns of our own on the toxicity a community can have and will be doing what we can to deal with that.

As for why not to use a privatized version of mainstream media, because people are always looking for alternatives. Twitter itself, in my opinion, is something that only adults should be accessible to. Since this is a Minecraft community, look at the TommyInnit situation. He left twitter because of how toxic, manipulative, and repulsive the Minecraft twitter community is. He directly stated how poor it was for his mental health. And that's just one reason to look for alternatives.

I understand your sentiment. Being accountable for 100% of what you do 100% of the time. But being canceled isn't always about about being accountable, it's about people who dislike when you say something controversial, take something out of context, or many other things and run with it to the extremes. They'll get their vigilante justice because they can manipulate a bunch of others into being offended by the material.


Thanks for the comment. As I said above, the fighting cancel culture was mcm clickbait and a small side concept because of my friends unfortunate situation. However, it seems to have become the largest discussion piece. The aim is to make a platform that allows a safe place to vent, to rant, and destress themselves by verbalizing their words to others. I believe it to be healthy to do so. The problem is when people publicly rant, it can come back to bite them later on. By purging posts, you can get a semi-solution. If you have any feedback, ideas, or questions, please let me know!


When someone isn't in a good state of mind (angry, stressed, etc) their words tend to not depict a very accurate reality of them or their feelings. If you knew my friend, you'd know that he posted that when he was 14, and the 14 year old him doesn't accurately show the current him. Or are you saying people don't deserve a second chance and what we say when we are younger define who we are? He's someone who would give the shirt off his back to a random stranger, he works incredibly hard to support his younger brother who moved in with him, and so many more things that the one social media post says. He's one of my best friends and it really sucks. But someone who hasn't had real-life consequences for their words wouldn't fully understand. Even I don't fully understand.

Anywho, again, not the aim of the platform. We want to be a safe place for people to verbalize their emotions. Be it good or bad, as long as it's within community guidelines, go for it. We don't want that rant or vent session to follow them. Anything flagged will be kept in long-storage with it's meta data. I stated that above. Anything else, goes away.

Long post, thanks for reading.

 

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I saw the title and instantly pressed the first option.

 

[Jasmine]

I feel like an anti-cancel culture platform (one that doesn't allow people to get cancelled) for me would be unappealing as if I posted anything that is slightly offensive will be tracked down back to me, similar to what an alt on Twitter is used for.
I'm interested in the concept and how you'll tackle a core issue and part of the mainstream media.

 

[Gunny]

I feel like an anti-cancel culture platform (one that doesn't allow people to get cancelled) for me would be unappealing as if I posted anything that is slightly offensive will be tracked down back to me, similar to what an alt on Twitter is used for.
I'm interested in the concept and how you'll tackle a core issue and part of the mainstream media.

Very true. It's a serious issue. The reason why this initially came up within my friend group is one of us being canceled. He said something stupid in 2012 and his local college found it and expelled him. To be fair to them, it was a really dumb, yet sarcastic, joke that could be taken offensively. However, such an extreme punishment is ridiculous imo.

Anywho, it most likely isn't going to be marketed as "anti-cancel culture" just good mcm clickbait. While we would certainly wouldn't condone those trying to cancel with consequences for the users, we can't stop human nature. People's opinions will differ. Our aim is to rather prevent the content from being able to be used as cancelable content in the first place. Methods for this include making photos of the media difficult to obtain (accessable only through devices, blocking both web and popular emulators, disabling native screenshots, and so forth), user content being purged from all records after a certain period of time, and more to come. Ideas are also welcome.

PS. We also plan, unlike other platforms, to not cater content towards users opinions. They are welcome to follow their own users and tags, but we want to expose people to new ideas. The main page will include not only the tags and users they follow but also additionally whatever other posts have happened based on creation date. Also! Upon registration and the settings, you have the option to enable a opposing views feature. This creates a separate tag/page that has opposing content to the users view on which we encourage them to take a look at the posts. However, while doing this, it hides the name and tags and disables liking, sharing, and commenting on the place.

Word scramble complete. Thanks for reading

 

[Ally]

Anywho, it most likely isn't going to be marketed as "anti-cancel culture" just good mcm clickbait. While we would certainly wouldn't condone those trying to cancel with consequences for the users, we can't stop human nature. People's opinions will differ. Our aim is to rather prevent the content from being able to be used as cancelable content in the first place. Methods for this include making photos of the media difficult to obtain (accessable only through devices, blocking both web and popular emulators, disabling native screenshots, and so forth), user content being purged from all records after a certain period of time, and more to come. Ideas are also welcome.

You want to remove all accountability for what people say? Sounds like Parler.

Who's to stop people from say, threatening violence or abusing other people if there's no accountability? How about your moderation team? Data storage and release policies?

 

[hgbf]

I like the idea, but I also don't really think it will be as easy as you think to launch a new social media and get people to use it. There are many of these popping up left and right, and very few actually make it big (and those usually have millions in their advertising budget). There are even a few similar social medias already (Gab and Parler), so breaking into the market would be near impossible. Top then be profitable is even more difficult, and is something even done large platforms today struggle with... I'd honestly go for something else instead if I were you.

 

[Andrew]

It's a super interesting idea,

I'm not really sure how it would work, as aid above this basically removes accountability for your actions. I think it could be done well as in moderated that all content posted about individuals is true & provides sufficient evidence. Rather than what i would call baseless claims that a lot of people make when attempting to cancel people. I feel like that concept would be effective and would be interesting to see how it's performed.

Best of luck with it.

Lolli |

 

[Gunny]

You want to remove all accountability for what people say? Sounds like Parler.

Who's to stop people from say, threatening violence or abusing other people if there's no accountability? How about your moderation team? Data storage and release policies?

To get started, no, we aren't removing accountability for users. That doesn't make sense. Much like any other media platform, there would be strict guidelines and filters for content. There is no way anything on the clearnet (expect maybe 4chan, gosh knows what happens there...) doesn't have some form of restriction on speech. It isn't like we are telling people they can be abusive, hurtful, or anything. All posts would be scanned for keywords and alternative sayings (ie $h1t). If it gets flagged, it would go under for manual review. If found against our policies, their account would be terminated. If found illegal, the post and meta data will be reported to proper authorities and put in long-storage for legal purposes. We are rather aiming to prevent users from having a poorly timed comment haunt them for years. We are aiming to allow a platform for everyone to share their opinion on whatever matters they wish. Not release accountability for hurtful or harmful content.

With scale we are looking at operating in the first couple years, human moderation of content is feasible.

It's a super interesting idea,

I'm not really sure how it would work, as said above this basically removes accountability for your actions. I think it could be done well as in moderated that all content posted about individuals is true & provides sufficient evidence. Rather than what i would call baseless claims that a lot of people make when attempting to cancel people. I feel like that concept would be effective and would be interesting to see how it's performed.

Best of luck with it.

Lolli |

Thanks for the interest. I completely agree. Removing accountability for people isn't a good idea. As an eagle scout, I believe accountability is one of the most important character traits. Our aim isn't to remove all accountability from users. Their name and handle will still appear on content they post and they will need to follow strict guidelines. I also like the idea of having to cite sources for content. That will definitely be implemented for anything deemed factual. However, not all opinions are factually based. I know for one that vanilla ice cream is a flavor (best one at that).

I like the idea, but I also don't really think it will be as easy as you think to launch a new social media and get people to use it. There are many of these popping up left and right, and very few actually make it big (and those usually have millions in their advertising budget). There are even a few similar social medias already (Gab and Parler), so breaking into the market would be near impossible. Top then be profitable is even more difficult, and is something even done large platforms today struggle with... I'd honestly go for something else instead if I were you.

Our project doesn't want to compete on such a level nor do we have the capabilities of such. Our project is more of an experiment and proof-of-concept test. It isn't something we are looking to make money off of. We will still need to monitize to cover hardware, network, and small advertising costs but that's it. Thanks for the concern. We appreciate it. :tup:

 

[Robsta]

Potentially having people sign up using real details but then using some kind of alias that the system generates but you can still provide your country etc. maybe? That way it remains somewhat anonymous, but obviously any sort of hateful speech would be dealt with.

 

[Gunny]

Potentially having people sign up using real details but then using some kind of alias that the system generates but you can still provide your country etc. maybe? That way it remains somewhat anonymous, but obviously any sort of hateful speech would be dealt with.

That's a neat idea. I like the concept for sure. As is, they are allowed to set a preferred nickname in addition to their handle. This already allows for them to reveal as much public information about themselves as they wish. It is then their job to keep their identity private. If were to obscure their names as is, it would defunct having followersand such. However, I do see this as an option upon creating a post. It would automatically require manual review but obscure their name and handle.

 

[Robsta]

That's a neat idea. I like the concept for sure. As is, they are allowed to set a preferred nickname in addition to their handle. This already allows for them to reveal as much public information about themselves as they wish. It is then their job to keep their identity private. If were to obscure their names as is, it would defunct having followersand such. However, I do see this as an option upon creating a post. It would automatically require manual review but obscure their name and handle.

Allowing people to control how much they choose to reveal about themselves. Whether it be their name, location, interests etc. Something I think would be really good for this platform. Filled out a feedback form, excited to see where this goes :tup:

 

[Scroll32]

Heres the issue with this.

You said you want to combat cancel culture (granted you said you wouldn't brand it this way, but regardless thats what your doing) which is really the being able to post your beliefs. But because your deleting the posts after a certain amount of time, you aren't really achieving this. Not to mention the restrictive content piece, which you said you would do. But then theres the no accountability peace which you said you wouldn't be doing. But this is actually the problem you are solving, because in your example this site would be leading your friend not to be responsible for his bad joke.

Another question and possible issue is this, how fast are the messages going to be deleted? If its too fast, then a lot of purposes of being able to see peoples good and fun posts gets very challenging because by the time it gets popular and traction it would get taken down. But if its too slow, then it defeats the purpose of it as you can just look it up and see recent history.

I personally don't see myself using it as a person just because I don't use social media in general, but thought I would give my feedback (I'm open to buying ad space from you guys if this gets big though).

 

[Gunny]

Heres the issue with this.

You said you want to combat cancel culture (granted you said you wouldn't brand it this way, but regardless thats what your doing) which is really the being able to post your beliefs. But because your deleting the posts after a certain amount of time, you aren't really achieving this. Not to mention the restrictive content piece, which you said you would do. But then theres the no accountability peace which you said you wouldn't be doing. But this is actually the problem you are solving, because in your example this site would be leading your friend not to be responsible for his bad joke.

Another question and possible issue is this, how fast are the messages going to be deleted? If its too fast, then a lot of purposes of being able to see peoples good and fun posts gets very challenging because by the time it gets popular and traction it would get taken down. But if its too slow, then it defeats the purpose of it as you can just look it up and see recent history.

I personally don't see myself using it as a person just because I don't use social media in general, but thought I would give my feedback (I'm open to buying ad space from you guys if this gets big though).

Thanks for the questions. Being accountable for your actions is indeed important, and when it brings into question others, even more so. Harmful and abusive content will be dealt with according, but at the same time, I personally believe that at some point, people want a place to vent, to rant, and destress themselves by putting your words into the world. I believe that verbalizing (virtually or not) your thoughts, emotions, and opinions is healthy. The problem is that when you post to most main-stream media, it stays there, indefinitely. The platform I wish to experiment with would allow you to rant about something and not have it haunt you years later. Hope this helps clear that up a little. Please know that I am writing these on my phone with a severe lack of sleep so I may not be explaining my point as effectively and as concisely as I wished to.

As for the post-time, we are currently looking at seven days, but will be adjusting when we can release a beta (gonna be a bit... :c). We believe that seven days allows enough time for user engagement while still being a short enough timespan.

Thanks, I really appreciate it. Feedback is awesome!

 

[Cristaf]

I hate this idea and I can’t believe you said this. Let me tell you why.

While YOUR intentions may not be toxic or to spread hate, creating the platform will. What separates you from a white suppresses forum group online? Do you want to be the platform that people go to to be racist and sexist? Do you want to be the platform responsible for the distribution of child pornography?

You say your going to scan the platform to prevent harmful and hurtful messages. Ok what am I suppose to vent? My boss sucks?

Snapchat is the #1 app for child pornography. Distrusting and making. What can you do that Snapchat isn’t doing? Are you prepared for the legal trouble?

Why use you? Why not Twitter? Why not private my social media’s and only allow my friends to see? Not my boss or college admins. When did the last new social media come out? TikTok in 2018? You think you can beat all these social media platforms that already copy one another?

You also say being held accountable for your actions is necessary. That’s why you get canceled? Without the fear of getting in trouble how far will someone go? It’s human nature. If tomorrow theft was made legal, how many people would start to steal? If tomorrow scamming was legal on MCM, how many users would scam?

If I REALLY need a place to vent and I don’t have any friends or family I will go into a Discord server that has a venting channel. There’s thousands of servers that allow it and that have 10s of thousands of members. Some have strict rules some have very lenient rules. Why go to your app?

This is all the extreme but you have to think about it. Humans take everything to the extreme weather you want them to or not. This is the internet. Nothing is safe here and everything can be manipulated. Hopefully you take this into account. Not hating on you or your friends by any means.

 

[Alistair F.]

I hate this idea and I can’t believe you said this. Let me tell you why.

While YOUR intentions may not be toxic or to spread hate, creating the platform will. What separates you from a white suppresses forum group online? Do you want to be the platform that people go to to be racist and sexist? Do you want to be the platform responsible for the distribution of child pornography?

You say your going to scan the platform to prevent harmful and hurtful messages. Ok what am I suppose to vent? My boss sucks?

Snapchat is the #1 app for child pornography. Distrusting and making. What can you do that Snapchat isn’t doing? Are you prepared for the legal trouble?

Why use you? Why not Twitter? Why not private my social media’s and only allow my friends to see? Not my boss or college admins. When did the last new social media come out? TikTok in 2018? You think you can beat all these social media platforms that already copy one another?

You also say being held accountable for your actions is necessary. That’s why you get canceled? Without the fear of getting in trouble how far will someone go? It’s human nature. If tomorrow theft was made legal, how many people would start to steal? If tomorrow scamming was legal on MCM, how many users would scam?

If I REALLY need a place to vent and I don’t have any friends or family I will go into a Discord server that has a venting channel. There’s thousands of servers that allow it and that have 10s of thousands of members. Some have strict rules some have very lenient rules. Why go to your app?

This is all the extreme but you have to think about it. Humans take everything to the extreme weather you want them to or not. This is the internet. Nothing is safe here and everything can be manipulated. Hopefully you take this into account. Not hating on you or your friends by any means.

I completely agree with this statement.

As much as this sounds "good on paper" and in concept, however, practically this would never work. Stopping "cancel culture" is like telling a cyberbully to stop cyberbullying people: It doesn't work. Toxicity is something that will be on all platforms, no matter how many filters or moderation is put into place because toxic people will always find exploits (just like they do on Twitter, Snapchat, and Tik Tok the epitome of toxicity and illegal activity), not to mention that toxicity is subjective, not objective, therefore, what may be considered toxic to one person, could be considered not toxic to someone else using the platform which would make a system like this flawed, therefore, causing discourse aka cancel culture.

Plain and simple, a platform like this would not solve any problems whatsoever, but actually instigate further problems and be just as bad as the rest, as you're using the same formula.

Your mission aside, trying to compete with these social media giants in such a saturated market is quite frankly a waste of time. Have you not thought that others have tried this idea? (ie: Gab and Parlor) which mostly is filled with conservatives wanting to have pointless and/or disruptive discussions without the accountability factor.

To get rid of cancel culture, our society, the human race would have to rewire their brains to simply not be toxic which is easier said than done, and has already been proven to be almost impossible at this stage in our development. As usual, we take one step forward, two steps back.

However, I implore you to try this idea and see how it goes. Success is found after failure, give it a try and it might just work. Good luck to you.

 

[Cristaf]

I completely agree with this statement.

As much as this sounds "good on paper" and in concept, however, practically this would never work. Stopping "cancel culture" is like telling a cyberbully to stop cyberbullying people: It doesn't work. Toxicity is something that will be on all platforms, no matter how many filters or moderation is put into place because toxic people will always find exploits (just like they do on Twitter, Snapchat, and Tik Tok the epitome of toxicity and illegal activity), not to mention that toxicity is subjective, not objective, therefore, what may be considered toxic to one person, could be considered not toxic to someone else using the platform which would make a system like this flawed, therefore, causing discourse aka cancel culture.

Plain and simple, a platform like this would not solve any problems whatsoever, but actually instigate further problems and be just as bad as the rest, as you're using the same formula.

Your mission aside, trying to compete with these social media giants in such a saturated market is quite frankly a waste of time. Have you not thought that others have tried this idea? (ie: Gab and Parlor) which mostly is filled with conservatives wanting to have pointless and/or disruptive discussions without the accountability factor.

To get rid of cancel culture, our society, the human race would have to rewire their brains to simply not be toxic which is easier said than done, and has already been proven to be almost impossible at this stage in our development. As usual, we take one step forward, two steps back.

However, I implore you to try this idea and see how it goes. Success is found after failure, give it a try and it might just work. Good luck to you.

I agree with you until you said "I implore you to try this idea and see how it goes" and "it might just work". I disagree. Do not try this. Do not try and open a new social media platform to cancel, cancel culture. (Hypocrite? IDK...) You will only waste your money, time and spread hate and toxicity unintentionally. If you want to make a new social media platform go ahead... but KEEP your data and hold people accountable for their actions. I'm sorry but people like your friend deserve to be canceled from time to time. You in the heat of the moment is still you, nothing changed.

Thanks for reading this! Good luck with your other ventures!

 

[Gunny]

I hate this idea and I can’t believe you said this. Let me tell you why.

While YOUR intentions may not be toxic or to spread hate, creating the platform will. What separates you from a white suppresses forum group online? Do you want to be the platform that people go to to be racist and sexist? Do you want to be the platform responsible for the distribution of child pornography?

You say your going to scan the platform to prevent harmful and hurtful messages. Ok what am I suppose to vent? My boss sucks?

Snapchat is the #1 app for child pornography. Distrusting and making. What can you do that Snapchat isn’t doing? Are you prepared for the legal trouble?

Why use you? Why not Twitter? Why not private my social media’s and only allow my friends to see? Not my boss or college admins. When did the last new social media come out? TikTok in 2018? You think you can beat all these social media platforms that already copy one another?

You also say being held accountable for your actions is necessary. That’s why you get canceled? Without the fear of getting in trouble how far will someone go? It’s human nature. If tomorrow theft was made legal, how many people would start to steal? If tomorrow scamming was legal on MCM, how many users would scam?

If I REALLY need a place to vent and I don’t have any friends or family I will go into a Discord server that has a venting channel. There’s thousands of servers that allow it and that have 10s of thousands of members. Some have strict rules some have very lenient rules. Why go to your app?

This is all the extreme but you have to think about it. Humans take everything to the extreme weather you want them to or not. This is the internet. Nothing is safe here and everything can be manipulated. Hopefully you take this into account. Not hating on you or your friends by any means.

Strong emotions :tup:
I said what I said because I believe it to be true. While the scale of the platform we are currently projecting, we won't have to worry about those extremes. Nor are we trying to compete with huge names. That's a ridiculous notion and a horrible idea in most senses. That being said, any media platform has to be ready for legal issues, as we are.

Scanning our platform for members posting hurtful or harmful material isn't going to have a profanity filter, but rather one for slurs, violent messages, and so forth. We have a many concerns of our own on the toxicity a community can have and will be doing what we can to deal with that.

As for why not to use a privatized version of mainstream media, because people are always looking for alternatives. Twitter itself, in my opinion, is something that only adults should be accessible to. Since this is a Minecraft community, look at the TommyInnit situation. He left twitter because of how toxic, manipulative, and repulsive the Minecraft twitter community is. He directly stated how poor it was for his mental health. And that's just one reason to look for alternatives.

I understand your sentiment. Being accountable for 100% of what you do 100% of the time. But being canceled isn't always about about being accountable, it's about people who dislike when you say something controversial, take something out of context, or many other things and run with it to the extremes. They'll get their vigilante justice because they can manipulate a bunch of others into being offended by the material.

I completely agree with this statement.

As much as this sounds "good on paper" and in concept, however, practically this would never work. Stopping "cancel culture" is like telling a cyberbully to stop cyberbullying people: It doesn't work. Toxicity is something that will be on all platforms, no matter how many filters or moderation is put into place because toxic people will always find exploits (just like they do on Twitter, Snapchat, and Tik Tok the epitome of toxicity and illegal activity), not to mention that toxicity is subjective, not objective, therefore, what may be considered toxic to one person, could be considered not toxic to someone else using the platform which would make a system like this flawed, therefore, causing discourse aka cancel culture.

Plain and simple, a platform like this would not solve any problems whatsoever, but actually instigate further problems and be just as bad as the rest, as you're using the same formula.

Your mission aside, trying to compete with these social media giants in such a saturated market is quite frankly a waste of time. Have you not thought that others have tried this idea? (ie: Gab and Parlor) which mostly is filled with conservatives wanting to have pointless and/or disruptive discussions without the accountability factor.

To get rid of cancel culture, our society, the human race would have to rewire their brains to simply not be toxic which is easier said than done, and has already been proven to be almost impossible at this stage in our development. As usual, we take one step forward, two steps back.

However, I implore you to try this idea and see how it goes. Success is found after failure, give it a try and it might just work. Good luck to you.

Thanks for the comment. As I said above, the fighting cancel culture was mcm clickbait and a small side concept because of my friends unfortunate situation. However, it seems to have become the largest discussion piece. The aim is to make a platform that allows a safe place to vent, to rant, and destress themselves by verbalizing their words to others. I believe it to be healthy to do so. The problem is when people publicly rant, it can come back to bite them later on. By purging posts, you can get a semi-solution. If you have any feedback, ideas, or questions, please let me know!

I agree with you until you said "I implore you to try this idea and see how it goes" and "it might just work". I disagree. Do not try this. Do not try and open a new social media platform to cancel, cancel culture. (Hypocrite? IDK...) You will only waste your money, time and spread hate and toxicity unintentionally. If you want to make a new social media platform go ahead... but KEEP your data and hold people accountable for their actions. I'm sorry but people like your friend deserve to be canceled from time to time. You in the heat of the moment is still you, nothing changed.

Thanks for reading this! Good luck with your other ventures!

When someone isn't in a good state of mind (angry, stressed, etc) their words tend to not depict a very accurate reality of them or their feelings. If you knew my friend, you'd know that he posted that when he was 14, and the 14 year old him doesn't accurately show the current him. Or are you saying people don't deserve a second chance and what we say when we are younger define who we are? He's someone who would give the shirt off his back to a random stranger, he works incredibly hard to support his younger brother who moved in with him, and so many more things that the one social media post says. He's one of my best friends and it really sucks. But someone who hasn't had real-life consequences for their words wouldn't fully understand. Even I don't fully understand.

Anywho, again, not the aim of the platform. We want to be a safe place for people to verbalize their emotions. Be it good or bad, as long as it's within community guidelines, go for it. We don't want that rant or vent session to follow them. Anything flagged will be kept in long-storage with it's meta data. I stated that above. Anything else, goes away.

Long post, thanks for reading.

 

[Cristaf]

Strong emotions :tup:
I said what I said because I believe it to be true. While the scale of the platform we are currently projecting, we won't have to worry about those extremes. Nor are we trying to compete with huge names. That's a ridiculous notion and a horrible idea in most senses. That being said, any media platform has to be ready for legal issues, as we are.

Scanning our platform for members posting hurtful or harmful material isn't going to have a profanity filter, but rather one for slurs, violent messages, and so forth. We have a many concerns of our own on the toxicity a community can have and will be doing what we can to deal with that.

As for why not to use a privatized version of mainstream media, because people are always looking for alternatives. Twitter itself, in my opinion, is something that only adults should be accessible to. Since this is a Minecraft community, look at the TommyInnit situation. He left twitter because of how toxic, manipulative, and repulsive the Minecraft twitter community is. He directly stated how poor it was for his mental health. And that's just one reason to look for alternatives.

I understand your sentiment. Being accountable for 100% of what you do 100% of the time. But being canceled isn't always about about being accountable, it's about people who dislike when you say something controversial, take something out of context, or many other things and run with it to the extremes. They'll get their vigilante justice because they can manipulate a bunch of others into being offended by the material.


Thanks for the comment. As I said above, the fighting cancel culture was mcm clickbait and a small side concept because of my friends unfortunate situation. However, it seems to have become the largest discussion piece. The aim is to make a platform that allows a safe place to vent, to rant, and destress themselves by verbalizing their words to others. I believe it to be healthy to do so. The problem is when people publicly rant, it can come back to bite them later on. By purging posts, you can get a semi-solution. If you have any feedback, ideas, or questions, please let me know!


When someone isn't in a good state of mind (angry, stressed, etc) their words tend to not depict a very accurate reality of them or their feelings. If you knew my friend, you'd know that he posted that when he was 14, and the 14 year old him doesn't accurately show the current him. Or are you saying people don't deserve a second chance and what we say when we are younger define who we are? He's someone who would give the shirt off his back to a random stranger, he works incredibly hard to support his younger brother who moved in with him, and so many more things that the one social media post says. He's one of my best friends and it really sucks. But someone who hasn't had real-life consequences for their words wouldn't fully understand. Even I don't fully understand.

Anywho, again, not the aim of the platform. We want to be a safe place for people to verbalize their emotions. Be it good or bad, as long as it's within community guidelines, go for it. We don't want that rant or vent session to follow them. Anything flagged will be kept in long-storage with it's meta data. I stated that above. Anything else, goes away.

Long post, thanks for reading.

Scanning our platform for members posting hurtful or harmful material isn't going to have a profanity filter, but rather one for slurs, violent messages, and so forth. We have a many concerns of our own on the toxicity a community can have and will be doing what we can to deal with that.
All social media platforms do this (unless it's in a private DM). So I guess I am not sure why I would vent on your social media platform and not anything else on the internet? There are bigger social media platforms, there are forum pages that my college admins will never find me on, there are discord servers, there's my friend group. I'm just not sure why I would use your app.

look at the TommyInnit situation. He left twitter because of how toxic, manipulative, and repulsive the Minecraft twitter community is. He directly stated how poor it was for his mental health. And that's just one reason to look for alternatives.
Wouldnt your social media be arguably more toxic? As it's meant for people in a fit of rage, anger, and despair to write on and vent. When you think of a social media platform as a community, theirs thousands of "communities" out their big and small. Forum pages, websites, discord, social media's, group chats, etc. Alternatives are not a scarce resource.

I understand your sentiment. Being accountable for 100% of what you do 100% of the time. But being canceled isn't always about about being accountable, it's about people who dislike when you say something controversial, take something out of context, or many other things and run with it to the extremes. They'll get their vigilante justice because they can manipulate a bunch of others into being offended by the material.
I don't know what your friend said but when I was 14 I knew, even when I was inraged, the difference between right and wrong. Even when I was the most pissed, I knew what racism was, sexism was, and where the line was. I yelled and hit my pillow. I'm sure a lot of us 14-year-olds did. But how many of us crossed the line? My friends were idiots and toxic as 14-year-olds and they aren't canceled. I'd be interested in knowing what your friend said to get canceled and where he said it.

When someone isn't in a good state of mind (angry, stressed, etc) their words tend to not depict a very accurate reality of them or their feelings. If you knew my friend, you'd know that he posted that when he was 14, and the 14 year old him doesn't accurately show the current him. Or are you saying people don't deserve a second chance and what we say when we are younger define who we are?
That's not true. I'm majoring in Psychology, will be a junior in the fall, and I don't agree with that. It shows a different side of us but it shouldn't be so drastic that it's heaven VS hell when your happy VS upset. If your willing to do something when you are upset what's stopping you from doing it when you are not upset?

Anywho, again, not the aim of the platform. We want to be a safe place for people to verbalize their emotions. Be it good or bad
You contradict yourself here. It cant be a safe place and let someone's bad feelings and emotions be unfiltered. "But we are going to filter inappropriate language." Ok, then bad emotions aren't allowed? You have to pick one. Not to mention good and bad are relative terms. Meaning your playing god here. Deciding what goes through and what doesn't. You're deciding what is being canceled and what isn't. You are just creating a new cancel culture but one only you have the power in.

 

[Gunny]

Scanning our platform for members posting hurtful or harmful material isn't going to have a profanity filter, but rather one for slurs, violent messages, and so forth. We have a many concerns of our own on the toxicity a community can have and will be doing what we can to deal with that.
All social media platforms do this (unless it's in a private DM). So I guess I am not sure why I would vent on your social media platform and not anything else on the internet? There are bigger social media platforms, there are forum pages that my college admins will never find me on, there are discord servers, there's my friend group. I'm just not sure why I would use your app.

look at the TommyInnit situation. He left twitter because of how toxic, manipulative, and repulsive the Minecraft twitter community is. He directly stated how poor it was for his mental health. And that's just one reason to look for alternatives.
Wouldnt your social media be arguably more toxic? As it's meant for people in a fit of rage, anger, and despair to write on and vent. When you think of a social media platform as a community, theirs thousands of "communities" out their big and small. Forum pages, websites, discord, social media's, group chats, etc. Alternatives are not a scarce resource.

I understand your sentiment. Being accountable for 100% of what you do 100% of the time. But being canceled isn't always about about being accountable, it's about people who dislike when you say something controversial, take something out of context, or many other things and run with it to the extremes. They'll get their vigilante justice because they can manipulate a bunch of others into being offended by the material.
I don't know what your friend said but when I was 14 I knew, even when I was inraged, the difference between right and wrong. Even when I was the most pissed, I knew what racism was, sexism was, and where the line was. I yelled and hit my pillow. I'm sure a lot of us 14-year-olds did. But how many of us crossed the line? My friends were idiots and toxic as 14-year-olds and they aren't canceled. I'd be interested in knowing what your friend said to get canceled and where he said it.

When someone isn't in a good state of mind (angry, stressed, etc) their words tend to not depict a very accurate reality of them or their feelings. If you knew my friend, you'd know that he posted that when he was 14, and the 14 year old him doesn't accurately show the current him. Or are you saying people don't deserve a second chance and what we say when we are younger define who we are?
That's not true. I'm majoring in Psychology, will be a junior in the fall, and I don't agree with that. It shows a different side of us but it shouldn't be so drastic that it's heaven VS hell when your happy VS upset. If your willing to do something when you are upset what's stopping you from doing it when you are not upset?

Anywho, again, not the aim of the platform. We want to be a safe place for people to verbalize their emotions. Be it good or bad
You contradict yourself here. It cant be a safe place and let someone's bad feelings and emotions be unfiltered. "But we are going to filter inappropriate language." Ok, then bad emotions aren't allowed? You have to pick one. Not to mention good and bad are relative terms. Meaning your playing god here. Deciding what goes through and what doesn't. You're deciding what is being canceled and what isn't. You are just creating a new cancel culture but one only you have the power in.

Thanks again for your concerns.

I am not wishing to try and compete with other platforms. I am not trying to convince users to choose our platform over others. It's simply an option and an experiment. I hope this finally explains that.

Arguably it wouldn't. The posts aren't intended to be directed towards our users, of course some of them could be, but that won't be the majority of them nor how it is marketed.

Being 14, you aren't fully mature nor necessarily know what could or could not offend people. You're still growing up, learning, and getting a better understanding of morals.

Good for you on your Psychology major. But I still know, at least when I am upset, I don't always say what I mean nor accurately describe my feelings. Especially in a way that conforms to how things need to be said to our my generation.

It can still be a safe place to express emotions without playing god by utilizing community guidelines and general consensus on what is moral or immoral. It isn't hard to know that racism, sexism, homophobia, and all that is immoral and not allowed. It isn't hard to understand that abusive or violent threats aren't okay and shouldn't be allowed. Not a small monarchy or oligarchy in thought.

If you wish to discuss further, feel free to send me a private message. But at this point, it seems like you are bent on tearing it all down because you disagree with the project concept. Feel free to do what you wish and express how you feel. However, at this point, it feels like cluttering the thread.