Some people make me so frustrated

[Cleora]

My example. Lately people have been coming to me from mcm and twitter/other sites for personal skins. They fill out the format but once they do so and I start sending screenshots of their middle progress to finished product skin, they'll request more details to be added. I wouldn't mind if it was all at once in a 2nd request like "Add this, add this, remove this"
But nope, not how people like to work. They'll fill out the format, say they like it, and a couple hours/mins later while I upload the finished product as a download OR go back to finishing it up, they'll tell me to redo 1/4th to 2/5ths of the skin which is frustrating.

Such as this for example.
User ordered 1 skin at first, then changed order to 2 skins, 1 white and 1 black.
User stated he wanted good quality for his money, in doing so I made the skins shaded all nicely which took a couple hours each. Then he comes back stating he doesn't like it and wanted it just PURE black and PURE white. I changed it. Then he wanted a mouth, ring, eyebrows removed, hat changed, and a couple other edits.

The shaded white and black ones I did:
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/8b808501cddff7d074eadc7d6af062f1-png.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/7633d1674af220de49160d217a190d45-png.jpg

What the user ended up taking: (pure colors, no shading)
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/841a64f29ad86f158d23570b6996b7fb-png.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/6e8a3b06e4c4e7fd07c6f64e33370070-png.jpg

This person even asked if I was threatening him when I asked if he could leave feedback
(As I had just finished the shaded skins, gave him the downloads and thought I was done)
https://gyazo.com/37f9c7236421a7918318f77ce9ac131b

The end result. https://gyazo.com/dbd2409993fac87a3ffe2a0955f169e6
"this has been one of the worst experiences I've had in the mc community."

Left without any vouching in my discord at the very least for taking hours to make the skin to his needs + all the extra edits that I don't normally do because when someone orders something, they should be able to get 90% of it written down in the first place. I also have a TOS reading stating how I wont do extra edits normally once the skin is done to the original request. So 1 skin turned into 4, and only 2 being used. No feedback, and honestly not worth the total of $10.00USD.

Mood: facepalm

 

[TheHighFly]

My example. Lately people have been coming to me from mcm and twitter/other sites for personal skins. They fill out the format but once they do so and I start sending screenshots of their middle progress to finished product skin, they'll request more details to be added. I wouldn't mind if it was all at once in a 2nd request like "Add this, add this, remove this"
But nope, not how people like to work. They'll fill out the format, say they like it, and a couple hours/mins later while I upload the finished product as a download OR go back to finishing it up, they'll tell me to redo 1/4th to 2/5ths of the skin which is frustrating.

Such as this for example.
User ordered 1 skin at first, then changed order to 2 skins, 1 white and 1 black.
User stated he wanted good quality for his money, in doing so I made the skins shaded all nicely which took a couple hours each. Then he comes back stating he doesn't like it and wanted it just PURE black and PURE white. I changed it. Then he wanted a mouth, ring, eyebrows removed, hat changed, and a couple other edits.

The shaded white and black ones I did:
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/8b808501cddff7d074eadc7d6af062f1-png.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/7633d1674af220de49160d217a190d45-png.jpg

What the user ended up taking: (pure colors, no shading)
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/841a64f29ad86f158d23570b6996b7fb-png.jpg
https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/6e8a3b06e4c4e7fd07c6f64e33370070-png.jpg

This person even asked if I was threatening him when I asked if he could leave feedback
(As I had just finished the shaded skins, gave him the downloads and thought I was done)
https://gyazo.com/37f9c7236421a7918318f77ce9ac131b

The end result. https://gyazo.com/dbd2409993fac87a3ffe2a0955f169e6
"this has been one of the worst experiences I've had in the mc community."

Left without any vouching in my discord at the very least for taking hours to make the skin to his needs + all the extra edits that I don't normally do because when someone orders something, they should be able to get 90% of it written down in the first place. I also have a TOS reading stating how I wont do extra edits normally once the skin is done to the original request. So 1 skin turned into 4, and only 2 being used. No feedback, and honestly not worth the total of $10.00USD.

Mood: facepalm

all I can say is yikes, keep your head high that's pretty damn rough and frustrating to say the least however.

 

[Cleora]

have a tos that discourages unlimited revisions and stop creating angsty threads for every user who pisses you off

Did you not read this at all? facepalm

I have a TOS in place and here are the 2 main rules related to details and the skin(s) itself.
https://gyazo.com/88270f8b2afd645433b8d4e67a18b360?token=90337a71bbb3b1f26d7aebab7701675f

 

[Cleora]

have a tos that discourages unlimited revisions and stop creating angsty threads for every user who pisses you off

It's also not that I'm pissed/mad. It's frustrating to have people that want commissions/orders done. I've had a couple people like this back to back but this is by far the worse.

Also, I didn't notice anything in the mcm rules about no complaining allowed

 

[Ally]

Did you not read this at all? facepalm

I have a TOS in place and here are the 2 main rules related to details and the skin(s) itself.
https://gyazo.com/88270f8b2afd645433b8d4e67a18b360?token=90337a71bbb3b1f26d7aebab7701675f

If you have a TOS in place - why are you complaining? If a user changed their order dramatically, then follow through with your TOS. Make them aware. The whole point of one is to enforce it.

When you go against your own TOS and make a thread like this on MC-Market, there's nothing anyone can do. There are only 2 ways a thread like this can go - it'll become an echo chamber or people will call you out.

Yes, people are frustrating when doing commissions. I hate dealing with clients. Computers are so much better. But it's part of the job you take on, on your own. So I don't see the point in making this thread, even if you are frustrated. Even more so if you're frustrated.[DOUBLEPOST=1588662770][/DOUBLEPOST]

It's also not that I'm pissed/mad. It's frustrating to have people that want commissions/orders done. I've had a couple people like this back to back but this is by far the worse.

Also, I didn't notice anything in the mcm rules about no complaining allowed

But what do you expect to happen on a thread like this though? Nothing good ever comes out of it.

 

[Cleora]

If you have a TOS in place - why are you complaining? If a user changed their order dramatically, then follow through with your TOS. Make them aware. The whole point of one is to enforce it.

When you go against your own TOS and make a thread like this on MC-Market, there's nothing anyone can do. There are only 2 ways a thread like this can go - it'll become an echo chamber or people will call you out.

Yes, people are frustrating when doing commissions. I hate dealing with clients. Computers are so much better. But it's part of the job you take on, on your own. So I don't see the point in making this thread, even if you are frustrated. Even more so if you're frustrated.

I decided to make the thread to point out complications like this. Plus who knows, this may not be the first time this user did this to someone and I could chat with others about it. Also, it did actually end up going over my TOS because of the amount of changes in total. The brow, mouth, ring where only 3 things the user stated me to change after the request/commission was finished.

I saw him typing and let him finished, and roughly 5secs later he left the discord.

 

[Cleora]

Staff have decided against me in the dispute about the negative reputation I gave the guy and it was removed.
For the reason: "There is no solid evidence to support the claims given. The majority of the evidence presented does not directly involve (username here) and comes down to word of mouth. Furthermore, evidence attached showed you went along with (username here) comments on one occasion, in fact encouraging them. Your most recent post shows that (username here) had to unblock you to say something, meaning you never blocked him. This evidence is not anywhere close to being conclusive."

I had to unblock him to screenshot the messages that WHERE left as PROOF for the dispute.. facepalm

Yay, another dude being overly creepy and sexual and gets away with it.

 

[icau]

Cleora do you have a thread or something in regards to your services? I need my skin to be touched up..

 

[Rhos]

When I was doing commissions I used bundles, which worked pretty great. Really discourages people from revising every tiny little thing, and if they want to do it anyway, I get more money so I'm fine with it.

 

[theanimeinfo]

Last time I did an art request for fivver, I asked for revisions because it wasn't what I requested initially. There might of been a language barrier and he didn't understand though. I tipped him at the end cause I felt bad.

Remember his opinion means nothing just like mine but, some people you can never make happy. Some people think they deserve everything because they gave you money but, in reality if they attempt to contact you again you have the ability to deny their service.

 

[Cleora]

Cleora do you have a thread or something in regards to your services? I need my skin to be touched up..

Yes though this is the wrong place to check.

 

[kiimm]

I agree. People can be so inconsiderate of other people. For example, this morning on the bus. Yeah anyway a healthy way to deal with this is meditation or peaceful minecraft survival mode (hostile mobs might add to the stress!). Best, kim

 

[Candid]

Imagine having a tos