The truth of Verus AntiCheat

[Clyde]

I've recently been seeing Verus AntiCheat get quite some hate that is quite unfair.

The hate is mainly because of the 2 developers (Well specifically 1) due to his past reputation and working on Area51 for KillaMC.

What I'll be explaining is the truth behind Verus and how it is way better than what people think, so lets begin:

Verus AntiCheat has to be undoubtedly one of the best (Well in my opinion the 2nd best) AntiCheat in the market. It's made by 2 very good developers by the name of Kyle and Jacob.

The AntiCheat has the potential to detect almost anything that isn't client-sided like it's nothing and with minimal false flags. The issue though is that we have had some AntiCheat developers (I won't be saying names) in the community talking trash about Verus and claiming stuff that isn't true and it is greatly affecting their sales while they (The accusers) are profiting off it.

These AntiCheat developers are claiming how Verus is skidded from AntiCheats such as AGC and how they're not giving the proper credit deserved for the code they use. That is ultimately false. Verus is in almost no way skidded. While yes, it does use checks made by other people other than the creators of Verus themselves (Very few checks), they use it with proper permission given and they (The creators of Verus) remake it to make it more precise.

So to anyone who has doubted Verus due to the claims made by others: Don't believe them. They don't know what they're talking about and talking blindly without sufficient proof. They just rely off the words what others say and believe it.

Verus AntiCheat does things that no other AntiCheat (Except 1 honestly) can do and people aren't realizing the true potential of it and for $125 ($175 but it's on discount), you're paying very little for what you get despite what others think.

Link to their discord: https://discord.gg/ZJD5U7c

 

[Clyde]

So one:
In Response to the basic counterclaim to your own private bias
*First claim
"Verus is in almost no way skidded."
*Anti to first claim
"While yes, it does use checks made by other people other than the creators of Verus themselves"
You have done what tons of others have done and used a method that is used all the time ("Covering the exit"), you single handedly left a very blatant gap for yourself if it ever does come out that they did skid (which I do not fully believe.)
Basically, proving that you are not fully behind your claim.
But, I digress. You are only covering one out of 4-6 different reasons people do not like Verus, for what I can assume is because you can not cover the other one's without being extremely bias. One of the main reasons people "hate" (quite a strong word for people who are just stating their own opinion) on Verus Anti-Cheat is because of its extremely undermanaged community's, and extremely toxic Ownership, which *you guessed it*, does not particularly draw people into wanting to use their product. I was helping them work on their project by donating my personal time (in the work of advertisement) and in testing newer bypasses to the community.
I had really not been toxic to them (other than Kyle) when they both unanimously started to make up fake stuff about me, and be toxic. When I had actual bypasses (Kill-Aura's,) they would make up massive lies and say that it had never worked and that it would never bypass all their checks.
On to my next point.
They are extremely bias!
With their toxicity they are also bias and make excuses, as you can see here, here (because if you don't agree with them then you are blatantly just jealous xD), and here.

Look my point is there is a lot more to the Verus story then just some claims of it being skidded, because everything is skidded to some degree, but that's not smart of you to try to make it look like that's the only important controversy involving these developers and Verus in a whole.

1. You cannot claim something is skidded if you were granted permission to use it. You're bending what I said to make it have a different meaning from what it actually has.

2. Verus isnt necessarily under managed at all.

3. They aren't toxic. They just don't like to deal with bullshit.

4. You're making it sound like your "Donated time" is something insane by the way you worded it, which it's not honestly. I won't lie, they have way better people to go to for testing than you such as SkidRevenant.

5. In terms of bypasses I cannot speak as I dont know the truth. But what I can say is they do have a lot of checks disabled. I experienced that first hand earlier when I was trying out some clients. I thought I bypassed, it turns out they had some checks deactivated, so you theoretically very well may have not bypassed, though of course maybe you did as well.

5. In honesty, they have the right to think highly of themselves. Verus is undoubtedly a top dog anticheat that can rank in the top 3 best publicly available AntiCheat (Behind Firefly). No other AntiCheat aside from FireFly can match up to them and that's honestly a hard fact.

6. To be fair, you have no right to be attacking Verus either considering you did brainwash and manipulate others into believing what you wanted them to believe instead of telling the truth (security) until everyone ganged up on you and you came out.

7. I do not mean to be rude, but you don't know Java. You may know how to read it and understand it, but you dont know how to actually develop in it properly and Security kinda proved it.

- Side note -
Dont say how your current project isnt skidded or whatnot, or even bring it up. We know its AAC/Spartan/Reflex or whatever.

 

[Eric]

This is why I put my threads on lock, so retards can’t spam stupid ignorant comments

 

[MTG]

not to sound rude, but what was the point of this post?

so he can advertise there discord
and for advertisiment purposes in general

 

[Kuzni]

Damn finally drama that isn't about me

Shut up now!!!!!

 

[Clyde]

1.
I never once in that entire post claimed that it is skidded, I said that everything in the community is skidded to a degree.
2.
The first thing people see when they join the discord is some random kids fucking acting like retards and being overly toxic towards any personal opinions.
3.
Thats called being toxic, if Donald Trump exploded on someone because he "doesn't deal with bullshit" and called them Autistic, he would be impeached.
4.
I had not just gone out of my way to find working bypasses for them, but I had also made them an advertisement for their MCM post (by hand.)
5.
I can see what you mean about the checks being disabled but to my knowledge they never even tried to enable checks and just ignored it and made fake claims all the way up until I literally helped them patch it.
6.
That is literally in no way correct. Just because (in my past) I told a ton of people something was coded by me, then I admit that it wasn't does not mean that I no longer can state any opinion.
7.
So that wasn't exactly what I meant by that, I meant that I understand anti-cheats in a sense of, yes I know that if a killaura check is designed to only check if the player hits a bot then it will not be a good anti-cheat.
- Side note -
I love that personal attack on my reputation. I just manage the project, the development is done by people I have hired.
If you want to test it you have my contact, but don't make fake shit up about me.

1. I wouldn't ever consider something "Skidded to some degree". Sure, you can copy a utility check, but that's nothing special and wouldn't consider that Skidding as whether you like it or not, everyone has similar, or the exact same utilities. Check-wise/AntiCheat base-wise though if it's obvious code was taken then yes, by all means expose them if you wish, but for Verus it's not.

2. That's not their problem (The owners of Verus), it's the community itself. I don't think you're that active if you're not aware of how toxic it can be. Plus the people in Verus they're not even toxic, we mostly all just fuck around and shit talk each other for shits and giggles (Like when we go after Rowin for skidding as a joke).

3. That's 2 different completely scenarios. Donald Trump is the president and has to be professional by force if he wants to impress and provide. Verus is an AntiCheat for a block game that is in a weird state of popularity. There's no reason to act fully professional when the community itself is mostly toxic.

4. Not gonna say anything as I honestly don't got much to say about that one except make sure to verify if all checks are live beforehand.

5. If you talk to Jacob I am sure he'll delay it for you personally due to him not being fond of you, but when I spoke to them about a bypass I thought I had, turns out most of the checks were off (Hell I thought I even bypassed Timer and AA, turns out they were offline).

6. Never stated you couldn't, only saying that you're calling Jacob/Kyle toxic when you literally brainwashed people to believing you and to attack others. Who's the toxic one?

7. You can actually make a good aura check utilizing bots. You just gotta know how to do it properly which almost no one even knows how to. Just my 2 cents though.

--Side Note Response--
You're claiming it's "Your project", yet you're just managing it?