Tips before posting (trigger warning)

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WARNING! THIS POST IS GOING TO PROBABLY OFFEND YOU. IF YOU ARE A PROFESSIONAL DEV WITH GOOD FOOTING ON THIS FORUM, THIS DOESN'T APPLY TO YOU!

MCM has suffered from the cancer that is immature children devs for a long time now. I've developed a list that is regularly updated of some tips before you make posts to the web development section. It is aimed to call out offenders and also to help young devs grow in the professional web development industry. If you aren't doing any of the bad things, and are doing the good things, you can be considered one of the elite MCM members on your way to success.
  1. When it comes to pricing your requests, make sure you look at market prices as to not insult professional devs and not get crappy product from newbies. If you want something for free, either go to one of the already created threads offering free stuff OR make sure you specify "(free)" in the title so the pay-only devs know to skip over it.
  2. Cracked Xenoforo is bad. I personally scoff anyone who tries to get one setup. It's also illegal. I'll DMCA your site faster than you can sneeze. There are great forums such as NamelessMC and MyBB that offer the same functionality and support at the low price of FREE. Using this looks a lot more professional than cracking software.
  3. If you are a sales rep for some group of developers (more on this later), try and make your posts original. Typical posts asking them to join your discord are cringy and look terrible.
  4. If you have less than 50% rep I'd avoid posting all together. Looks terrible and nobody will want to work with you. Fix your rep first, or if you're a scammer, get off the site k?
  5. You aren't a company. Don't call yourself that. You're a group of developers. That said, if you are a registered company, provide docs backing you up to look super professional and not be grouped with the #fakenews companies.
  6. Business accounts with 0 rep look bad.
  7. Get some rep before asking for $50 on a project.
  8. Get some rep before becoming a "sales rep". Looks awful otherwise. You're basically trashing a post.
  9. Get yourself a profile picture. There are no excuses to make your account look nice before trying to publicize yourself.
  10. If you don't have a lot of rep, try and save the bigger projects to the higher rep people. For example, if there is a project from someone with a good plan offering good money, I refer one of the more skilled devs.
  11. pls use gud gramar it l00ks rlly stupid to tYp3 l1k3 THis.
  12. Please use the correct section on the forums. This isn't the place to beg, and this is the web development section. Don't post stuff that quite obviously should go elsewhere (it's your job to check before posting).
  13. PLEASE be clear on what you want with posting. I (and many other devs) will not take a second more looking at a post that has 2-3 words. We wanna know what we're getting ourselves into before wasting our time.
That's all. That's my tips before posting. Now for some suggestions to help you as a dev or team improve:

  1. Help others out by referring this thread or sending them a PM with advice. Don't be cocky, just be informative.
  2. STAY AWAY from all the development teams that are new/unofficial. If they claim to be a company, ask for proper documents. If they have none, they are absolutely fake and shouldn't be considered a professional entity with legal backup. If they have supporting documents, go for it. They can't scam you or they will get in actual legal trouble.
  3. If you make over $10k a year (in most places in the US) make sure you file taxes. I'm sure if you're making that much, you are aware of this. I am a libertarian who is definitely against taxes, but the truth is that if you do not file them, you will be in big legal trouble and lots of headaches. It's the sad world we live in.
  4. My personal preference is to work alone or only with close friends who I know and trust. I Never liked working for groups of devs.
  5. Be decent. No, I'm not saying you are being indecent. I am just saying continue to be decent. Be kind, helpful, etc to the members of the forum. You'll easily make an impact that way.
  6. If you are just a "team" "group of devs" or "services", make sure you let your sales reps know to keep it in PM if they want to message people, as to not trash threads with the same template post. It's WORLDS more professional to contact someone directly than to reply to the thread, and it greatly increases your chance of getting the job.
  7. PLEASE post your recruitment threads in the proper section... Recruitment & Staff. The web developer section is littered with recruitment threads.

I will be referring users who trash this forum section to this thread instead of reporting every single post and spamming the mods with all this garbage.
 
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The main idea behind me posting that is to avoid posts such as:

Title: Looking for developer
Something in the post: Not looking to pay

When I click a post, I don't want to have to waste my time seeing someone looking for free stuff, which would usually cost over $20/hour in the working world.
 

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Yea if you want free stuff, keep it in the already created threads or be specific in your title.

Title: Need developer (not paying)

It may seem blunt, but I'd rather have that than nothing so I know to skip over that post. The people looking for free stuff need to realize: people who want rep will work on their free requests.
 

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Great, simple but many don’t think of it
 

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Nice work my man, I appreciate the effort put into this!
 

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Agreed, good work. This forum nowadays is so spammed with "sales reps" with no rep pasting messages all over the place without even reading the actual post.
 

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I put 'free' on my thread title, so I don't know why you linked me to this thread for no reason.
 

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Hi. I've scrolled through a few pages today and noticed the same stuff I always notice, so I figured I'd make a post to help some people out. I'm not a moderator or admin, and I will definitely be acting like one in this post. If you don't like being told what to do, leave before you go REEEEE.
  1. If you want free stuff, go to one of the already created posts from people offering and ask for free stuff. The paid developers don't want to click on every post and find out you want a freebie. Also asking $3 to setup a forum is insulting.
  2. Cracked Xenoforo is bad. I personally scoff anyone who tries to get one setup.
  3. If you are a sales rep for some group of developers (more on this later), try and make your posts original. Typical posts asking them to join your discord are cringy and look terrible.
  4. If you have less than 50% rep I'd avoid posting all together. Looks terrible and nobody will want to work with you. Fix your rep first, or if you're a scammer, get off the site k?
  5. You aren't a company. Don't call yourself that. You're a group of developers. Also business accounts with 0 rep look bad.
  6. Get some rep before asking for $50 on a project.
  7. Get some rep before becoming a "sales rep". Looks awful otherwise. You're basically trashing a post.
  8. Get yourself a profile picture. There are no excuses to make your account look nice before trying to publicize yourself.
  9. If you don't have a lot of rep, try and save the bigger projects to the higher rep people. For example, if there is a project from someone with a good plan offering good money, I refer one of the more skilled devs.
  10. pls use gud gramar it l00ks rlly stupid to tYp3 l1k3 THis.
That's all. That's my 10 tips.
I've seen far to much people asking for free stuff it makes me crazy. also I see ton of sales managers just copy-pasting their discord in almost everywhere requesting thread, I've seen people request something that wasn't a build but like a certain task and there were like 3 sales manager spamming their discord without seen the actual post.
 

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So many so called "sales reps" trashing posts lately. Please stop you are just spamming the forum with incompetence and uselessness.[DOUBLEPOST=1535383878][/DOUBLEPOST]
11. Please use the correct section on the forums. This isn't the right place.
I assume you're referring to people who are considered "begging" or who blatantly post something in the wrong section?
 
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I agree with this, but neg repping someone for copying and pasting a sales pitch might be harsh?

Although, thanks for posting and the tips are appreciated.
 
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