Trump vs Hillary

Trump or Hillary

  • Trump

    Votes: 86 36.4%
  • Hillary

    Votes: 66 28.0%
  • None

    Votes: 84 35.6%

  • Total voters
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One's a Duck (can't keep his mouth shut) and the other is a scammer. I'd prefer the duck over a scammer.
 

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One's a Duck (can't keep his mouth shut) and the other is a scammer. I'd prefer the duck over a scammer.
Scammer? Explain yourself, mate. No proof of scams, no dice.
 

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Scammer? Explain yourself, mate. No proof of scams, no dice.
By scammer I meant liar. Also her foundations are scams such as the Clinton foundation which her/bill's goal is just to make more money out of counties and people.
 

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...which is why I wouldn't want to elect Trump because he would make sure those loopholes stay in effect, and possibly add more.
Erm.. he actually said he is going to get rid of them all. He knows the tax codes very well and has laid out a plan of all the provisions he is removing including carried interest. Do your research.
 

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If there is a legal way to pay less taxes you are legally obligated to use it.
I'm going to put it in simple terms. America, or the United States of America, or United States, whatever you want to call it was created for a few main reasons, one of them being: A.) Free from religious persecutions & b.) Freedom itself. Donald Trump clearly likes his Freedom of Speech. But he isn't too keen on the religious persecutions. He is willing to fully block muslim immigrants just because a few of them bomb buildings. I don't like that. I don't appreciate that.
 

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The amount of people who don't think trump is a racist surprises me. Its not like theres video proof of him screaming Mexican's rape people.
 

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I see your point, but you can't trust Trump with presidency. He is a every eager man, with no self-control, and I may say myself, a bit crazy. I wouldn't trust that man with nuclear power. Hillary is well-known, and she has a well-thought out plan, like it or not, it's out there to see! You can't look @ a whole campaign and decide to go with it just because one of the ideologies beseeches you. Trump himself is a criminal, he's just bypassed the system, e.g not paying taxes. If I go with a criminal, I'd rather go one that hasn't been caught.

I don't really want to get into a big debate about it. ^_^ But I do trust him with nuclear power. I think he's a man with a family, who clearly loves this country. He's not going to do things that endanger his own family and his family's future. People paint him as a psychopath, but I think a lot of that is negative media painting. In reality, he's a very nice and down to earth guy. If you look at his actual history and a lot of his social dealings, he's made a lot of effort to help minorities and the downtrodden. For example, Jesse Jackson once praised him and said that he was a hero for the aid that Trump has given in helping minorities integrate into high level business. Most of the depictions of Trump being unstable are put out there by the Hillary campaign, and they really mis-characterize him. Trump makes a lot of jokes, and he's not politically correct. If you don't understand that he's joking a lot of the time, I think I can see how people might be offended by him or they might look down on him. I personally have never been offended by anything he says, and I am a female lesbian. The media narrative says that I should hate Trump, but I will happily vote for him.

I agree with Trump on a great many things - immigration, economy, trade, foreign policy, and more. The few things I disagree with the Trump/Pence campaign on are social issues such as gay marriage and abortion.

Hillary may be well-known, but she is well-known for being a crook and ineffective politician. Like it or not, while she was Secretary of State many horrible things happened. She was basically entirely in charge of America's foreign policy in her position, and yet nothing has been done to help Syrians or aid in stopping the Syrian situation. She supported the downfall of Gaddafi in Libya, which has basically given complete control of the state to Islamic fundamentalists. Libya went from a civilized, modern nation with many advantages over its neighbor nations to a wartorn tribal nation with no central strong authority. She supported the chaos in Egypt that saw the downfall of Mubarak who had ruled the country peacefully for over 30 years. And now, she's supporting the downfall of Assad, who has peacefully ruled over Syria for a great deal of time now. She supported arming rebels with ties to Al Qaeda and other extremist terrorist organizations.

Her own campaign is 20% funded by Saudi Arabia, a nation which she herself admits funds ISIS. Women have basically no rights in Saudi Arabia. How can she claim to be a 'progressive' candidate when she accepts so much money from a nation that has zero respect for women? Clinton supported the Defense of Marriage Act, which sought to prohibit gay marriage in the United States. She supported that just in 2008, and the people running her campaign claim that she still supports it. Her running mate is a Catholic, and it is well known what the position of the Catholic church is on social issues such as gay marriage and abortion.

Trump did not break the law on taxes. He used existing tax code to avoid paying them. The law is what is broken - Trump did not break it. I myself attempt to pay as little taxes as possible and do whatever I can to avoid paying them - why should I fault someone else for doing the same? I think it shows that he's a good businessman.

As for the criminal aspect, most people that aren't corrupt or brainwashed agree that anyone who did things similar to what Clinton did would be locked up if they did not have her connections. The only reason Clinton isn't in jail right now is because she is Hillary Clinton. Anyone else would be locked up. She is a crook, and she belongs in prison. She has completely undermined the criminal justice system in the United States and her cronies in the Democratic Party have totally and utterly corrupted the Department of Justice and the FBI.

It's time to clean house.
 

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Erm.. he actually said he is going to get rid of them all. He knows the tax codes very well and has laid out a plan of all the provisions he is removing including carried interest. Do your research.
He will likely let them there & if not, try to get laws to overpower his company. It's ambitious & the right way to go when you're in power, honestly.
 

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Fact checking is always unbiased take a look
 

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I get where you're coming at. There are only a few things to take in note here in which you would choose one over another:

Hillary:

You like the U.S. how it is, and think it is fine. You want to shake the boat a bit, not too hard, I guess.

Trump:

HOLY FUCK! LET US RECHANGE THE AMERICAN DREAM, SINCE IT IS DEAD!
 

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I get where you're coming at. There are only a few things to take in note here in which you would choose one over another:

Hillary:

You like the U.S. how it is, and think it is fine. You want to shake the boat a bit, not too hard, I guess.

Trump:

HOLY FUCK! LET US RECHANGE THE AMERICAN DREAM, SINCE IT IS DEAD!
I'd say war with Russia isn't keeping the US as it is.
 

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I'd say war with Russia isn't keeping the US as it is.
Russian war isn't going to happen. The generals will not allow it, and neither will most congressman.
 

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Honestly i am up for Hillary, but both candidates are talking trash about one another. Not trying to come up with solutions for the nation.
 

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Climate is not the same as weather.

This is worth taking a look at: http://xkcd.com/1732/

"I don't know about where you live, but where I am the winters are pretty cold." lol. Maybe do a little bit more research on global warming because climate =! weather. You can entertain yourself with this official webpage dedicated to global warning by the NASA. http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/

"It should be based on experience and what the candidate would bring to the country." What experience does Trump have in politics? None. He's a real estate business man. A politician is something very different. Also, being a president is not just finance.

Hillary her background is nothing but politics. Just do a quick search, she's the one with the actual experience.

Luckily, there's a congress which will do it's thing if Trump does become president(which is unlikely imho). It will not stop him from having a big mouth towards China though.
Ah, gotcha. So this "global warming" thing has no relationship to the temperatures I feel LMAO. You're not helping your case.
 
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