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Trump is different, there's a reason he was voted in.
Unless you've been living under a rock. There's been a lot of corruption in the U.S. government recently. (By recently I mean since FDR)
Trump is a classic example of 'I didn't leave the democratic party, the democratic party left me'

He's kind of an asshole, but he's a NewYorker so that makes sense. He doesn't take your bullshit, he'll call you out on it and shame you. I think this is what puts a lot of people off, but it's also what a lot of people love him for.

Regardless of what you think of Trumps twitter, you have to admit it's pretty smart. He can put out whatever he wishes to the public without having to go through the media, who notoriously has been extremely anti Trump.

Trump is exactly what the left hates, someone who isn't PC, doesn't like the left, and is rich. The incredible culture change that the left has forced upon the United States since the sixties is really what Trump is fighting against, and what he was voted in to do.
He's also notoriously been loud about the 'deep state', which recently has garnered a large amount of recognition, far more than previously, and has vowed to destroy it. Hence the 'drain the swamp' mantra.

Basically, Trump is the complete opposite of a normal politician, and that's why I support him.[DOUBLEPOST=1574098709][/DOUBLEPOST]
You know what the best part is of living in Europe. I don't look at what I want to change, I look at the facts.

Let's take an example with the "Mexican problem", the people who think that Mexicans are a problem don't realize that Americans come from Europe I guess, all of you were foreigners in a country wich wasn't yours and look at what you guys did to the population who lived there. The difference with the Mexicans are that they dont storm your county and murder most of the population, you guys are doing that yourself with the "great" gun laws.

Dont you guys see how foolish it is to vote for someone who doesnt see his own history?


And dont let me get started about the small loan of 1mil he got bc we all know that was one big lie.[DOUBLEPOST=1574089325][/DOUBLEPOST]
He's doing a better job as expected but is he really the man that needs to be incharge

Okay, this is classic.
As someone who is against mass migration, I believe I can make our beliefs more clear.
We're against migration because of the culture shock it introduces into the United States. Regardless of what you believe, mixing cultures hasn't ever worked nor will it ever work, look at modern Europe post 2015 migration crisis for an example.

We're not against you because you're from somewhere else. We just don't believe your culture is good. Not all cultures are created equal, and no, it doesn't make me racist for saying it. Just to be clear, I judge people based on their character and not their race.
However when it comes to massive amounts of people coming in, it creates a bunch of sub-cultures in communities that used to be homogeneous. We want you to become a part of our culture and leave yours behind, become one with us. However this doesn't occur when you let large amounts in during a short period of time. Look at china towns for example, they just congregate together because they want to be with people who are like them. There's nothing wrong with wanting to be with like-minded people, but it completely destroys the idea of becoming an American. Someone from Venezuela has no idea what limited government is when they come over, which is what America was for a long while before migration, and still is compared to many other countries.

Long story short, we have nothing against you, we just want you to become one of us, and not become a subculture.
 
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Don’t you think that a lot of people think differently then this? We have so much foreigners here and we do not actually care about it. The only people who are actually against it in Europe are the 50+ group. This could be because the Netherlands and other European countries recruited people from Turkey etc to come to the Netherlands to work here. We don’t see it as a problem we see it as something which is happening and where we need solutions for ASAP. Maybe that’s the reason why we didn’t have a real terrorist attack yet.

Another thing about migration; How do you justify the fact that Americans originally come from Europe and your trying to ban Mexicans from coming in. That’s one of the things that I wouldn’t be proud of but I guess I lack the American spirit.

Btw I have nothing against the USA but I think that Trump is making some big mistakes (like Ukraine) and then calling it fake news.

You can’t just call everything which is against you fake news.



btw did you guys ever look how we run things here in Europe?

Most people do outside of the United States, Polard, and Israel. However Europe has had a large crime jump since the Migration Crisis. I think older people care more because they've actually seen their countries pre migration. Terrorist attacks? They've happened quite frequently in Europe recently. They just don't get covered as much anymore.

I said I had a problem with Mass Migration, not migration in general.

The Ukraine call had nothing wrong with it.

Your only finding excuses to have a reason to wear a gun. If I would be honest; I think guns are cool, they make you feel powerful etc. But I think that you guys handled it wrong. Yes maybe there would be more life’s safe with guns atm, couldn’t that be because they are gunning down a shooter?

How could it be that we in Europe have less of those problems then you guys? Just use normal thinking please and not US BS that you see on tv and talk about with your friends.[DOUBLEPOST=1574100206][/DOUBLEPOST]
The suicide also fake news?

Bearing weapons is a right, arms aren't just guns.
Safety wise, exponentially more crime has been stopped because of a gun than has been caused by a gun. CDC study and all. Also, as Ben Franklin once said, 'Those who trade liberty for safety deserve neither and will lose both.'

Europe has much more issues than the United States. Europe has more knife crime, acid attacks. There are other ways to hurt people.

And yes, Epstein didn't kill himself.[DOUBLEPOST=1574100611][/DOUBLEPOST]
Isn’t that weird to do to a running mate? And also keeping the funds on hold to protect their country


You can't just run for president and be immune to investigations. That's not how justice works.
I think it's incredibly appropriate to investigate the Ukraine president and see whether or not he's legit. I don't see a problem, also, the President wasn't aware the funds were being held.
 
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well this turned into a very heated political debate but I like it :eek:
 
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I don't like any candidates from that year but after all that has happened, how can you like trump? He is by far the worst president we have ever had. No other president in American history has had this much hate, you literally find 1 positive tweet about him by a bot on all his threads, He's committed thousands of crimes, refuses to show his tax returns and on top of that, his wife isn't even legal. The only difference between her and his idea of "illegal aliens (mexicans)" is that she doesn't speak Spanish & isn't a POC.
 

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I don't like any candidates from that year but after all that has happened, how can you like trump? He is by far the worst president we have ever had. No other president in American history has had this much hate, you literally find 1 positive tweet about him by a bot on all his threads, He's committed thousands of crimes, refuses to show his tax returns and on top of that, his wife isn't even legal. The only difference between her and his idea of "illegal aliens (mexicans)" is that she doesn't speak Spanish & isn't a POC.

I like Trump because he puts America first, is strong on his views and is bringing economic strength. He is by far the best president since Reagan. And Abraham Lincoln has had this much hate. Obviously ending slavery was very controversial at the time and a huge change, with controversial things and big changes will always come a lot of hate. Unfortunately Lincoln ended up getting assassinated because of all the hate. “1 positive tweet by a bot”, I actually do see a lot of positive tweets by real people. The blue checkmarks (most of which are liberal) appear near the top automatically because of their checkmarks, but there still is a lot of support shown by real people, the same people that voted for him and resulted in him winning the election. Or were those voters spooky Russian bots too?! Is every Trump supporter a bot?! Am I a bot?! And thousands of crimes? Like what? It’s been confirmed that Trump was spyed on by the Obama administration and has been under intense scruitiny. If nothing was found after all that, what did he do? Also, a quick Google search shows that Melania Trump does indeed have valid U.S. citizenship, so I have no idea where you got that tinfoil hat conspiracy theory from, especially since it can be disproven so easily. That last part is something you’ve made up in your head completely.
 
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