ugly thread design not centered
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Uhh. I would first work on learning how to design first.
Flaws:
Flaws:
- A lot of rough edges
- Very plain and odd-looking
- Uses the same thin font throughout the whole thing
(Meaning no titles stand out)
only real issue I had that its so fucking bright jesus christ its about 1/4th as bad as lightmode
yea got new pc and didn't have my fonts so just used some basic fonts and thanks for the feedback.
ty for the feedbacks appreciate it
atleast add feedback lol. I mean we could all hate but helping each other is better I'm not hating on your work from April 9 bud.
Not too bad IMO, I do agree that he should atleast add constructive feedback lol, saying that you shouldnt sell designs only, is useless.
Regardless, in my opinion, you should make the text bold or change the color of the text, I had trouble making our what the text said.
To all the people saying, "don't sell anything, don't do design work, this is horrible and learn how to design first" - this is by far the worst type, most counter productive type of feedback imaginable.
To OP, I wouldn't recommend self labeling your own design as "my ugly ass design" because that's self deprecating and counter productive.
Although you have a lot of room to grow (design and art is virtually an infinite skill), this shouldn't stop you from creating a design service, or trying to sell anything.
In fact, plenty of people, including the very people in this thread saying "don't start your design service" have products that are very far from perfect, and wouldn't qualify to someone's standard of being purchased.
The beauty of the free market says that if someone wants your product, someone will buy it. So this design might be something you could give away for free. But this design that you tweaked a little bit and improved on, you could maybe sell to someone who is looking for a tropical green design.
If you never start trying to sell your product/design you will never know what the market actually wants, what they are willing to pay for, and how much. Just don't be discouraged when you first design flops and people don't buy it. Continue to improve and you will start getting more comfortable at your craft and within the space.
Use your service as a tool to realize where you're at. If you make a design that someone buys, you know it's worth something. If you don't, you can improve it and look for other designs for inspiration.
The last thing I would recommend is to go into the appraisal section of MCM, trash on your own design, and then invite other people to do the exact same, allowing for confirmation bias for you to give up.
To OP, I wouldn't recommend self labeling your own design as "my ugly ass design" because that's self deprecating and counter productive.
Although you have a lot of room to grow (design and art is virtually an infinite skill), this shouldn't stop you from creating a design service, or trying to sell anything.
In fact, plenty of people, including the very people in this thread saying "don't start your design service" have products that are very far from perfect, and wouldn't qualify to someone's standard of being purchased.
The beauty of the free market says that if someone wants your product, someone will buy it. So this design might be something you could give away for free. But this design that you tweaked a little bit and improved on, you could maybe sell to someone who is looking for a tropical green design.
If you never start trying to sell your product/design you will never know what the market actually wants, what they are willing to pay for, and how much. Just don't be discouraged when you first design flops and people don't buy it. Continue to improve and you will start getting more comfortable at your craft and within the space.
Use your service as a tool to realize where you're at. If you make a design that someone buys, you know it's worth something. If you don't, you can improve it and look for other designs for inspiration.
The last thing I would recommend is to go into the appraisal section of MCM, trash on your own design, and then invite other people to do the exact same, allowing for confirmation bias for you to give up.
THIS IS ALL MY OPINION. YOU AND OTHERS MY NOT AGREE.
So I will give you some tips and advice:
1. Don't bash yourself, if you aren't happy with a design keep going at it and getting advice, bashing yourself gives others grounds to do the same and doesn't help you. I've made horrible designs that I've hated but customers have love, I've also made designs that no one will ever see. Be positive and look at what you did to see what you can improve on it.
2. Practice. Seriously practice over and over. When I first started designing I thought I was horrible but I have a passion for it and I am much better now then when I was. I will sometimes just work on my own little projects and design things for them. Example: Think up a potential business someone might contact you about getting designs for, then make those designs. Make them as final product as you can then save it and export. Then take the time to look them over and see what you like and don't like, ask other FRIENDLY designers what they like and don't like. Then improve upon it and try again.
3. Don't give up, you will get there. It just takes time and practice. Seriously I can show you some of my designs that I made years ago and you'd gag, but I look back on them fondly because that was my starting point and I've only gone up, so can you.
4. Honestly the others bashing on your design and saying you shouldn't design need to take a look at themselves and see how pathetic that is. They could instead be making friends with you and helping you grow so that when you become the next big artist you will remember them helping you. Ignore them and focus on the constructive criticism, it will help you more in the long run. Try to learn the difference between criticism and constructive criticism, one will tell you what you did wrong while the other will point out what you can improve on.
5. I honestly hate/love your design, however I will tell you why and what you can do to improve on it, I would love if you sent me the updated one if you decide to make changes to it.
Good luck! Please share your new designs with me!
- Flamelier
So I will give you some tips and advice:
1. Don't bash yourself, if you aren't happy with a design keep going at it and getting advice, bashing yourself gives others grounds to do the same and doesn't help you. I've made horrible designs that I've hated but customers have love, I've also made designs that no one will ever see. Be positive and look at what you did to see what you can improve on it.
2. Practice. Seriously practice over and over. When I first started designing I thought I was horrible but I have a passion for it and I am much better now then when I was. I will sometimes just work on my own little projects and design things for them. Example: Think up a potential business someone might contact you about getting designs for, then make those designs. Make them as final product as you can then save it and export. Then take the time to look them over and see what you like and don't like, ask other FRIENDLY designers what they like and don't like. Then improve upon it and try again.
3. Don't give up, you will get there. It just takes time and practice. Seriously I can show you some of my designs that I made years ago and you'd gag, but I look back on them fondly because that was my starting point and I've only gone up, so can you.
4. Honestly the others bashing on your design and saying you shouldn't design need to take a look at themselves and see how pathetic that is. They could instead be making friends with you and helping you grow so that when you become the next big artist you will remember them helping you. Ignore them and focus on the constructive criticism, it will help you more in the long run. Try to learn the difference between criticism and constructive criticism, one will tell you what you did wrong while the other will point out what you can improve on.
5. I honestly hate/love your design, however I will tell you why and what you can do to improve on it, I would love if you sent me the updated one if you decide to make changes to it.
- Title is blurry and hurts my eyes. I would suggest using a clear font, and scale up the font size not scaling it up. I would love to suggest you some fonts you can use that people have loved having on their threads, just message me on discord and I will get those to you.
- The bright green color is a no, it is extremely bright, I would personally change the color to a less harsh color, though having this color in a small amount wouldn't be bad and could help bring your attention to specific areas of the thread.
- I honestly like the overall theme of the thread design. I feel like it is a zen type thread that brings peace with the pong and greens. Just change the bright green.
- The pond is a little flat though you could fix that up with some simple shading, just add some depth to it and boom it would look amazing.
- I know you said you didn't center the text because you were lazy but.... seriously center the text, even if it is just practice thread, don't be lazy when designing, make it a finished product.
- Use some lorem ipsum to fill in the blanks/as place holders. It is simply dummy text, you can read more about it here: https://www.lipsum.com/ Using dummy text will give you an idea of how it should look and what should be changed, much better than the "Dummy" and "Dummy text".
- I do like how the bottom two sections of rolling green look, though I would make the Tittle text bigger for FAQ and put some lorem ipsum in there as place holders.
- Move the contact text title down and into that section more, it needs to have padding around it and make it flow.
- You want things to be symmetrical as best as you can. It pleases the users eye. You can do this by having one section text be on the left with image on the right, the next section below is the opposite of that. Do 3 or 4 of this and it will make the thread look nicer (mainly do this for about, FAQ, Contact, if you are going for what you did in the bottom two sections)
- Not sure why you have the process section numbers like that. It doesn't flow right at all. I would suggest you either move them to one side or do 2 on left and 2 on right. The numbers will do the work. Remove the arrow and symbols. Make the process text bigger, they should be close in size to the numbers.
- For the pricing section, center the text as I said before and use lorem ipsum to make examples for the bullet points.
- All text should be pure white with black outline, this has been proven to stand out on any color, it makes the text significantly easier to read, I would do this for all the text even if the background is black, it is a good habit to get into.
- If you are going to have a text be a different color, it should be the main title on a black/dark background(like the gray you have) make sure it is read able and you can always add a white outline to it.
- Also for fonts one guy said using the same font is bad, no it isn't. Using the same font shows consistency and helps your brain flow smoothly when reading. If you use different fonts you will subconsciously notice(hence why scam emails get you suspicious due to the different fonts, even if they look close).
To make your titles stand out with the same font use bold, italics, and underline. You can also use outlines, shadows(drop shadow, etc), and boxes/lines around/under it. - The top black area border is to much, simple the waves out some so that process has a bit more room to fix there.
- Add another fern design, that you have in the top left, to the bottom right(in the same area). Perhaps even put one in the black and then another in the very bottom left.
Good luck! Please share your new designs with me!
- Flamelier
note: I didn't center some things because I was to lazy but yeah this is my ugly ass design. whatcha think I sould start my designing service for lol.
To be fair it's honestly not as bad as people are saying it is. If I were you I'd just work on my text placement, it looks rather awkward in the current positions. For example at the top where it says your username you can see a lot of blank space in the bottom right-hand corner, if you simply made the waves smaller and more 'calm', it'd look a lot better in my opinion.
Another thing I'd potentially change is simply the dummy text, it looks bad because there's not a typical amount of words there, I'd recommend making a sentence saying "this is a dummy paragraph, it has no actual meaning behind it. Simply to show how it'd look when presented", this would fill up a lot more of the white space.
Finally, a lot of people are being harsh and criticizing your work without any actual meaning or positive feedback to help you improve. Just ignore those people, they're clearly not here to try and help you - simply to put you down. I wish you the best of luck, certainly see some talent
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