Verification System

[TellTale]

The incredibly simple solution to a lot of problems is to make a verification system.
A lot of new users give out reputation, bid on threads to bump prices for friends and also allows for a lot of scamming in general.

Create a new package for purchase called "Verification". Give it a price of roughly $3. Purchasing Premium, Supreme or a Name color will also give you verified status.

Once you are verified, you will be allowed to:

• Post threads in the minecraft market place and minecraft services.
• Give Reputation
• Have a signature
• Open Scam Reports
• Have "Verified" role next to their name.

I see this as a simple solution to a lot of problems, sure, problem makers have money to spend, but one will only pay so much before they realize it's not worth it.

 

[Chearful]

You shouldn't be stopped from making a scam report.

 

[TellTale]

You shouldn't be stopped from making a scam report.

I get that, but at the same time it's a market website and one would be expected to have at least $3 to spend on their account.

Scam reports are easily abused with a newly registered user allowed to create them.
/mythoughts

 

[Ivain]

What you're suggesting is to require a payment fee to be able to leave reputation or open a scam report. What if you went to buy a build for your full $50, and then got scammed? You wouldn't have the money for verification.

I can see at least a dozen ways in which this can go horribly wrong, and very little actual purpose. So no, twice no and hell no.[DOUBLEPOST=1499523436][/DOUBLEPOST]1. no reason to restrict signatures
2. scam reports should never be restricted
3. this basically gives control of reputation over people with money, since assholes wanting to neg-rep wouldn't mind spending $12-24 to be able to gang-rep in the worst of cases.
4. If you want to start a service, but you're broke, you become unable to offer said service. Not even spigot has a money-based restriction system.
5. it would discourage people from signing up for the site. Even if it's "just" $3, needing to pay to be able to use the most important sections of a site is automatically discouraging. If this had been implemented when I first found the site, I might never have signed up.

6. It will not stop scammers.
7. Most of the people giving (false) neg-rep are already long-time members, or are about to be. Most true newbies barely understand how it works. You're targeting the wrong user group
8. I also see no reason to block access to the marketplace with just $3. It's not going to limit any of the bad people, and it's going to scare off the potentially good ones regardless of how little it is.
9. "verification" gives a false sense of security, which will mislead many members to believe a 'verified' person is trustworthy. Which they aren't.
10. This will also give people the false idea that because they're verified, they're now reputable and can make demands like someone reputable.
11. It will make MCM liable for 'verified' people scamming. After all, they paid to get verified.
12. As you said yourself, MCM should not be responsible for people doing stupid things. This includes literally everything in this entire suggestion. By that post, you just debunked your initial suggestion. Implementing this would mean MCM takes at least partial responsibility for the actions of the 'verified' member.
13. paying $3 means absolutely nothing in terms of filtering, since there is no correlation between good people being willing to pay and bad people being unwilling, and anything higher will limit potential customers even further.
14. name ONE forum that requires you to pay to access what is literally its main section. Then name the amount of members it has. if there is one as big as MCM with a paid-access restriction to its core features, I'll be VERY surprised.
15. This will give MCM a reputation of absolute moneywhoring. The premium rank is worth it, Supreme just maybe. Namecolors are purely aesthetic. Then there's paid advertisement spots. Think of the impression it gives if they implement yet ANOTHER pay-wall.

 

[TellTale]

If you blow $50 on a build, and that's all you had and you get scammed that's incredibly dumb and foolish.
MCM is not responsible for the mistakes of others.

I've given the scam report a cross-out, but still think it's an excellent idea.

 

[Fire]

Post threads in the minecraft market place and minecraft services.

I dont think MC-Market would be as big as it is today, if it forced everyone to buy a $3 rank before they could do something as simple as create a thread.

Asides people who have come here to scam, wont think anything of paying $3, when they can scam anything from $20 right upto $100's.

 

[Sentiinel]

Did mick pay you to make this thread so he can approve it any get money?

 

[Mick]

What you're suggesting is to require a payment fee to be able to leave reputation or open a scam report. What if you went to buy a build for your full $50, and then got scammed? You wouldn't have the money for verification.

I can see at least a dozen ways in which this can go horribly wrong, and very little actual purpose. So no, twice no and hell no.[DOUBLEPOST=1499523436][/DOUBLEPOST]1. no reason to restrict signatures
2. scam reports should never be restricted
3. this basically gives control of reputation over people with money, since assholes wanting to neg-rep wouldn't mind spending $12-24 to be able to gang-rep in the worst of cases.
4. If you want to start a service, but you're broke, you become unable to offer said service. Not even spigot has a money-based restriction system.
5. it would discourage people from signing up for the site. Even if it's "just" $3, needing to pay to be able to use the most important sections of a site is automatically discouraging. If this had been implemented when I first found the site, I might never have signed up.

6. It will not stop scammers.
7. Most of the people giving (false) neg-rep are already long-time members, or are about to be. Most true newbies barely understand how it works. You're targeting the wrong user group
8. I also see no reason to block access to the marketplace with just $3. It's not going to limit any of the bad people, and it's going to scare off the potentially good ones regardless of how little it is.
9. "verification" gives a false sense of security, which will mislead many members to believe a 'verified' person is trustworthy. Which they aren't.
10. This will also give people the false idea that because they're verified, they're now reputable and can make demands like someone reputable.
11. It will make MCM liable for 'verified' people scamming. After all, they paid to get verified.
12. As you said yourself, MCM should not be responsible for people doing stupid things. This includes literally everything in this entire suggestion. By that post, you just debunked your initial suggestion. Implementing this would mean MCM takes at least partial responsibility for the actions of the 'verified' member.
13. paying $3 means absolutely nothing in terms of filtering, since there is no correlation between good people being willing to pay and bad people being unwilling, and anything higher will limit potential customers even further.
14. name ONE forum that requires you to pay to access what is literally its main section. Then name the amount of members it has. if there is one as big as MCM with a paid-access restriction to its core features, I'll be VERY surprised.
15. This will give MCM a reputation of absolute moneywhoring. The premium rank is worth it, Supreme just maybe. Namecolors are purely aesthetic. Then there's paid advertisement spots. Think of the impression it gives if they implement yet ANOTHER pay-wall.

Very well said, there's nothing more I can really add to this.

Denied, thanks for the suggestion.