W.I.P - Rhythm(HCF CORE) - Should it be free, or nah?

[PlayerStats]

I'm deciding on whether or not this should be free, right now it doesn't have much in it, but I'm working on it.

https://gyazo.com/0d5e6c43696447d0abdcff5bf55b4fdd

I really don't have a reason to post this, just want your suggestions on whether or not this should be free and how I would benefit from that, danke

 

[Fluddershy]

It's your choice...

FREE:
   Pros:
       - Awesome Portfolio
       - Credit for making it
   Cons:
       - People could leak it twice as fast.
       - People could decompile it and claim it as their own twice as fast.
PAID:
    Pros:
       - You get money and credit
    Cons:
       - People will still leak it and claim it as their own.

 

[PlayerStats]

To me, leaking is not a big problem. I'll simply have a list of servers or users that have purchased my plugin, if a server is not that, i'll put them on the naughty list, simple as that.

Thanks for putting it all together though, i'll consider it.

as for people claiming it is their own i'll make sure the command names are /rhythm and stuff, so people know, and make it not directly register to the plugin.yml but rather to the command map so they cannot change it.

 

[PlayerStats]

Huli thanks for the suggestion, fixed.

 

[iron768]

Huli Haha, I knew someone would say that.

See, if someone downloads TWO of my plugins -- let's see:

me.<myName>.<project>

Huh, what's that? they're throwing classnotfound exceptions?! WHAT IS THIS?!

(i remember this happening to me but i could be wrong lol)

It won't. Let's say for example you have 2 plugins running on a server made by you.

If the packages are like this:

HCF Core:
me.playerstats.hcf

Staff Plugin:
me.playerstats.staff

It won't throw an exception, it will only do that if you have the same package name.
So if you had it like this it would throw an exception:

HCF Core:
me.playerstats.plugin

Staff Plugin:
me.playerstats.plugin

 

[PlayerStats]

It won't. Let's say for example you have 2 plugins running on a server made by you.

If the packages are like this:

HCF Core:
me.playerstats.hcf

Staff Plugin:
me.playerstats.staff

It won't throw an exception, it will only do that if you have the same package name.
So if you had it like this it would throw an exception:

HCF Core:
me.playerstats.plugin

Staff Plugin:
me.playerstats.plugin

Yeah, figured it out, used two test projects, haha. Thanks!

 

[FeelMyReach]

Make it Free!

 

[M4T14SG4M3R]

To me, leaking is not a big problem. I'll simply have a list of servers or users that have purchased my plugin, if a server is not that, i'll put them on the naughty list, simple as that.

Thanks for putting it all together though, i'll consider it.

as for people claiming it is their own i'll make sure the command names are /rhythm and stuff, so people know, and make it not directly register to the plugin.yml but rather to the command map so they cannot change it.

Is not simple as that, there are too many people that could crack something like this, literally they just can edit some strings using programs like jByteEdit or something like that

 

[MarkFreak]

Is not simple as that, there are too many people that could crack something like this, literally they just can edit some strings using programs like jByteEdit or something like that

Not if it's obfuscated.

 

[PlayerStats]

Is not simple as that, there are too many people that could crack something like this, literally they just can edit some strings using programs like jByteEdit or something like that

Agreed. But i'd probably add servers using a leaked version on a sorta shaming list, so even if they want to get big, they wont due to their reputation.

I cannot beat leakers in any way shape or form. Everything is bound to be cracked at some point, servers that use leaked versions are simply bad servers period. I might make it open source soon though.

 

[MarkFreak]

You can't obfuscate an HCF core. No one would be able to make addons or custom plugins with support for it unless it has an extensive API.

True, I guess that's a stupid idea then.

You do know that obfuscation can get de-obfuscated?
But as Futurize said then you would not be able to look at code for addons and stuff..

I know that It can be de-obfuscated but not if you are using a very good obfuscator? (I don't know what I'm talking about just assuming)

 

[Eric]

I just want to say, you applied for PluginManager not long ago and the code you showed us was (in all honesty) horrible.

https://github.com/PlayerStats/Clear-Chat/blob/master/src/net/clearchat/playerstats/ClearChat.java

Stuff like that updated only 10 days ago, so I highly doubt you have the ability to create a HCF core with the efficiency compared to that of some of the worst iHCF forks.

So in that case, I'd definitely say put it up for free.

 

[Picturesque]

You can make this free and get feedback on what to improve on so you can perfect the next core you make as making one right now and selling it isn’t a really good option

 

[Ygore]

True, I guess that's a stupid idea then.



I know that It can be de-obfuscated but not if you are using a very good obfuscator? (I don't know what I'm talking about just assuming)

Anything is easy to reverse engineer in Java, doesn't matter whether you use a $1,000 obfuscator or something custom. It's so easy to decompile anything in Java but it stops the skids.

 

[Sam]

except for vmprotect

VMProtect isn't impossible to crack as it's been done multiple times.