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Paying for a method to avoid paypal charge backs. Been in this business before old method is patched! MSG me! Willing to pay! not for dumb shit! or any other option for money?
 
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just make sure you have a t.o.s, it won't always work, provide proof of your t.o.s and them agreeing to it, you should be fine.
 

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Way to avoid it: Send them an invoice that includes a waterproof ToS which states without doubt that chargebacks are not allowed, as well as stating exactly what you will and will not provide.
As long as you hold to the latter, there is no way in hell paypal will give them the win on any chargebacks. Most people who pay an invoice won't even bother trying, assuming it's possible in the first place. Never been on the receiving end of an invoice, so I would not know.
 

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Way to avoid it: Send them an invoice that includes a waterproof ToS which states without doubt that chargebacks are not allowed, as well as stating exactly what you will and will not provide.
As long as you hold to the latter, there is no way in hell paypal will give them the win on any chargebacks. Most people who pay an invoice won't even bother trying, assuming it's possible in the first place. Never been on the receiving end of an invoice, so I would not know.
Invoice is best. Clarify that you are receiving/offering an online service or virtual good/product. Make it very clear in your TOS to win back G&S. Many people don't accept G&S cuz they don't like chargebacks, but invoicing is the "legit" way to do business deals electronically.
 
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Agreed. If you use F&F too often, paypal may just randomly limit your account.
Half the people having their accounts limited for random shit likely use F&F regularly.
Invoices do cost a little bit more than just G&S, but for most cases over $50 it's definitely worth it.
 

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Agreed. If you use F&F too often, paypal may just randomly limit your account.
Half the people having their accounts limited for random shit likely use F&F regularly.
Invoices do cost a little bit more than just G&S, but for most cases over $50 it's definitely worth it.
They cost a bit more? I just use thefeecalculator.com to calculate how much I gotta charge lol
 

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They cost a bit more? I just use thefeecalculator.com to calculate how much I gotta charge lol
That's one way to do it, but since I usually use it for deals over $100, $5 more or less isn't gonna kill me.
 

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That's one way to do it, but since I usually use it for deals over $100, $5 more or less isn't gonna kill me.


I usually have them purchase a rank off a buycraft. Worked 100% times even with unauthorized charge backs. only ones ive lost are from credit card/banks They fuck me over to much.
 

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I usually have them purchase a rank off a buycraft. Worked 100% times even with unauthorized charge backs. only ones ive lost are from credit card/banks They fuck me over to much.
That is an option too, but it's not truly an official way.
Let's put it like this. If you use an invoice, you could theoretically sue them. They're more than likely to have their IRL data connected to their paypal, or if not this can usually be tracked using the proper legal action.
Of course, nobody's gonna do this for $200 or so (the basic legal fees already exceed that) but say you've got a SERIOUSLY big deal, and then they try to get it back. You could take some really big action with invoices that way.
not to mention, if you exceed your country's lower tax limit, an invoice is an excellent way to show your actual taxable income, instead of the big hassle you'd otherwise get.
 

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That is an option too, but it's not truly an official way.
Let's put it like this. If you use an invoice, you could theoretically sue them. They're more than likely to have their IRL data connected to their paypal, or if not this can usually be tracked using the proper legal action.
Of course, nobody's gonna do this for $200 or so (the basic legal fees already exceed that) but say you've got a SERIOUSLY big deal, and then they try to get it back. You could take some really big action with invoices that way.
not to mention, if you exceed your country's lower tax limit, an invoice is an excellent way to show your actual taxable income, instead of the big hassle you'd otherwise get.


Thanks man just do not know how to setup the invoice, going to need help with that. Starting up a business online and i'm investing a good 5k into it, So I am most likely going to setup my business with this payment method! Would appreciate some help!
 

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Way to avoid it: Send them an invoice that includes a waterproof ToS which states without doubt that chargebacks are not allowed, as well as stating exactly what you will and will not provide.
As long as you hold to the latter, there is no way in hell paypal will give them the win on any chargebacks. Most people who pay an invoice won't even bother trying, assuming it's possible in the first place. Never been on the receiving end of an invoice, so I would not know.
I'm pretty sure "You cannot chargeback" won't work for the government nor PayPal. People who build homes put that in a different way and courts completely ignore that piece.
 

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Thanks man just do not know how to setup the invoice, going to need help with that. Starting up a business online and i'm investing a good 5k into it, So I am most likely going to setup my business with this payment method! Would appreciate some help!
Go to "send and request money". It should give you the option to 'create invoice'.
fill that in, see if you can get a good ToS written up, that should be all.[DOUBLEPOST=1480556167][/DOUBLEPOST]
I'm pretty sure "You cannot chargeback" won't work for the government nor PayPal. People who build homes put that in a different way and courts completely ignore that piece.
fair enough, something more official like "no refunds of the product may be given, then list a bunch of exceptions (Such as the product being extremely inadequate).
Anyway, I put it in my ToS for each invoice, have yet to be charged back once
 
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