What is up with service teams??

[Diz]

I have one main problem, and its with the freelancer cut.

See put it this way,

I wanted to buy a app which did alot of stuff, Costed around $500

Freelancer cut = $425

$75 is left for the "sales rep" and "company"

Well sales rep is only like 5% of the og sale which is $25 right? But they say you can only cash out at $30 or $50

Then $75 for the company? You mean 15 to the manager the rest for the owner.?

If a company did even 95% freelancer i would pick them, Or 100% i would pick them everytime.

In the real world the company profits much more off of their employees. At my work our employees make any where from $15 to $50 an hour and the company has margins of around 40% in some cases as much as 65% depending on the service.

 

[Cal]

Its because they want to give it structure and make it seem that they are making thousands and thousands of dollars.

I think that's true to an extent, though anyone rationally thinking about it for minute should be able to see that that isn't case for those kinds of teams. I do think there is a portion of trying to keep up appearances, but I wouldn't say that structure is so much the goal so much as the appearance of structure. Many of these teams don't know the values and limitations of the different management styles, and simply look to big companies and see that they often develop convoluted structures and try to emulate that just because, without actually taking advantage of that structure.

I currently only use Avast if I'm really in need of a service and I can't find the right boy to do it, but I'm not getting even closer to touching a discord invite link from a freelance team.
Although it depends on the service they're offering, if it's something unique and new (Like Sword ;w, then sure I'd join it to look around, but freelance teams? No.

1. Them "CEO"s... - In 95% of the freelance teams I've been to I could almost never find a CEO who actually knew what they were doing.
A. Graphics - I mean, I know it's not required to have some graphics but a little logo and a thread design for $20-30 wouldn't be so bad.

B. Recruitment - In about 70% of the freelance teams that release everyday now, their weird CEO decides it's a good idea to release both service and recruitment stages at the same time!!!

2. Sales Representatives - Like, stop... Legit I don't need to see your advertisement on every single thread there is!
Like I see this post

And I think, yeah it's alright.. Then I go to their messages.

Then there are these even worse ones who actually contact you on discord just to tell you about their team.

These are the 2 main reasons why I don't join freelance teams, and 99% don't support them at all.
If you're in a desperate need of a service, at least use Avast.

first off I love you boo, I ain't ever gonna stop lovin you boo
This is the problem with most teams. When we opened Prime all that time ago, it was designed around the idea of a committed and strong upper management, the system was built to run lean, and to minimize expenses. These teams don't understand what running a lean business means, and that often leads to this flimsy policy that flounders under the initial load, then never recovers and fizzles out and shuts down.

I belive if you are a 'CEO' You either need to be A: Making more than 50 dollars a week B: Be large, unique and have support

There are exceptions.

I find you as a CEO

Well I appreciate the sentiment, and I try my best to take a compliment, but I feel as though I need to say; just breaking down the structure of Avast at the moment; there are exactly 3 people, including myself, who I would consider leadership staff. As I was saying earlier about running lean, Avast and Prime are both built on strong upper management with minimal liabilities. This means very few users who require that all that much oversight, to be a CEO, it would mean there are more that directly answer to me. Avast operates as a platform, albeit one with strict registration requirements, and the administration and upkeep staff of that platform is kept as lean as possible. The bigger the team, the more people there are that need to be looped into the current goal and limitations of the business.

I have one main problem, and its with the freelancer cut.

See put it this way,

I wanted to buy a app which did alot of stuff, Costed around $500

Freelancer cut = $425

$75 is left for the "sales rep" and "company"

Well sales rep is only like 5% of the og sale which is $25 right? But they say you can only cash out at $30 or $50

Then $75 for the company? You mean 15 to the manager the rest for the owner.?

If a company did even 95% freelancer i would pick them, Or 100% i would pick them everytime.

It's really about where you place the burden. It's a question between where you place the cost of doing business, as no business exists without intent to profit. Yes, there is an element of trickle down pricing, but in general, the upfront, direct cost to a consumer is much greater and much less appealing to said consumer than an indirect cost, one that is obscured and one with the burden of service fees placed on the freelancer. In a world of unicorns and cotton candy, the cost of doing business would not need to be obscured, but relying on people to be better than they are and bare the costs for betterment of others is not one we will live in.

 

[BGHDDevelopment]

My thoughts on this is it really depends on the amount of people you have working with you and less on the registered business.

For me technically I am running a business and just sent off DBA forms etc.
But when it comes to my roles on discord and online I just normally named Head Dev, Founder. The only time I use CEO is when dealing with government, or legal issues.

I don’t mind either way that much but if you call yourself a CEO you should have made something at least partly successful first.

For service teams I am 50/50 in a way its a good thing, another way its bad as freelancers could fine the work if they really tried and be able to keep 100% of the money.

 

[moon10k]

I love the:

'HEy, jOin Our dIscOrd sO wE cAn Make You WaIt 38 HoUrS fOR a ResPOnse, THaNKS'

 

[BGHDDevelopment]

I apologise, I did not look into advast enough. I find your companies different from most service companies; it's not built upon seaweed stilts that can fall over if the tide comes in.[DOUBLEPOST=1550641218][/DOUBLEPOST]
I find Ceo's titles make them fell way too above them selfs. What is your company about?

Mine is just development for all the plugins I run on spigot and mcmarket.

 

[Spenser]

Didn't you used to have CEO / COO as a bio portion? I clearly remember you having it lul.

 

[android.]

I currently only use Avast if I'm really in need of a service and I can't find the right boy to do it, but I'm not getting even closer to touching a discord invite link from a freelance team.
Although it depends on the service they're offering, if it's something unique and new (Like Sword ;w, then sure I'd join it to look around, but freelance teams? No.

1. Them "CEO"s... - In 95% of the freelance teams I've been to I could almost never find a CEO who actually knew what they were doing.
A. Graphics - I mean, I know it's not required to have some graphics but a little logo and a thread design for $20-30 wouldn't be so bad.

B. Recruitment - In about 70% of the freelance teams that release everyday now, their weird CEO decides it's a good idea to release both service and recruitment stages at the same time!!!

2. Sales Representatives - Like, stop... Legit I don't need to see your advertisement on every single thread there is!
Like I see this post

And I think, yeah it's alright.. Then I go to their messages.

Then there are these even worse ones who actually contact you on discord just to tell you about their team.

These are the 2 main reasons why I don't join freelance teams, and 99% don't support them at all.
If you're in a desperate need of a service, at least use Avast.

Did I see myself?